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[PROPOSAL} Throttling site access during rat fight.

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Gris X
xDECOYx
DECOY
#1 - 2012-01-20 01:15:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Gris X
This would apply for each room with a warp gate in scanned sites.

When rats engage or get engaged in a room accessible from a warp gate, the warp gate throttles down the number of ships that can use it every minute to a number equal to the number of non rats ships currently in the room until all the rats in the room are dead.

The goal here is to limit the capability to simply bring superior numbers into a site, while the original site explorers take all the aggro, without removing the possibility that the same number of ships with the right firepower could still be a menace to the explorers.

SO If a 2 person gang is busy on a site, then only 2 new ships can enter that room in one minute time, then 4 others one minute later as the room now has 4 ships in it and so on.
TrollFace TrololMcFluf
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-01-20 05:45:56 UTC
posting in a stealth "ninja salvage/I SHOT THE NINJA AND GOT SPLOADED" whine thread
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#3 - 2012-01-20 05:48:17 UTC
I do not support this. I run lowsec/nullsec DED sites and it would be a shame if I couldn't kill the people already running them because I wasn't able to get inside Twisted
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-21 15:30:29 UTC
I do not support this.

There's absolutely no valid reason for this except to curb ninja salvagers and as CCP has stated numerous times, there's nothing wrong with ninja salvagers.

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Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#5 - 2012-01-21 15:46:48 UTC
Someone violenced your boat while you weren't paying attention, right?

Tsk Tsk...~

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Domukuan II
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-21 18:18:31 UTC
Acceleration gates are old technology. They don't care that some newbie wasn't paying attention and got ganked.
Gris X
xDECOYx
DECOY
#7 - 2012-01-29 18:54:22 UTC
Bump and added a clarification.

The goal is not to curb or prevent ninja salvaging, but to make sure a site's explorer group will not get jumped by a number of ships higher than their own numbers when they are also engaged with the rats within a room.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2012-01-29 20:06:45 UTC
Gris X wrote:
Bump and added a clarification.

The goal is not to curb or prevent ninja salvaging, but to make sure a site's explorer group will not get jumped by a number of ships higher than their own numbers when they are also engaged with the rats within a room.



The answer is still "no."
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#9 - 2012-01-29 22:10:58 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Gris X wrote:
Bump and added a clarification.

The goal is not to curb or prevent ninja salvaging, but to make sure a site's explorer group will not get jumped by a number of ships higher than their own numbers when they are also engaged with the rats within a room.



The answer is still "no."


More specifically, the answer is still "working as intended". Eve isn't instanced, ever, period (which is pretty much what you're asking for).
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-01-30 14:18:55 UTC
I would have to say no to this as well. Simply because this would prevent PvP in said sites when enough people enter the site so that nobody else can get in. I doubt this would hinder ninja salvaging at all since all it takes for that is one more ship...either way...sorry...it's a no.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#11 - 2012-01-30 15:14:10 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
Gris X wrote:
The goal is...to make sure a site's explorer group will not get jumped by a number of ships higher than their own numbers when they are also engaged with the rats within a room.


So you want arbitrary rules added so that you can be safer? utrollin?

Say they warp in two force recons or bombers, wait a minute then warp in a main force of four ships. How is this any different than six ships landing in the site with you at once?

edit: also, I see a serious potential for abuse when someone just cycles an alt back and forth, using the gate once a minute so that no one else can enter. The ability to lock an acceleration gate is just stupid.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#12 - 2012-01-30 15:25:48 UTC
Gris X wrote:
The goal is not to curb or prevent ninja salvaging, but to make sure a site's explorer group will not get jumped by a number of ships higher than their own numbers when they are also engaged with the rats within a room.



This proposal would make PvE sites more pointless and boring than they already are.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law