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Hybrids and Gallente ships balancing - follow up
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Planetmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-01-30 13:12:06 UTC
Im really pissed. Many ppl is waiting for gallente ship re-balancing. Galls are still useless in PVP only few ships are "ok" . Winmatar is "Win button" CCP fave race OTMoment.

If you are new player don't you dare to skill gallente They are useless you will just loose your time.

I have Minmatar max skilled on my other toon so its not the point that im LAZY or something I just want to fly in more ships.

Anyway

CCP Tallest in post from 2011.11.04 announced that HE as a great designer is taking care about hybrids... Well CCP Tallest and his Chief CCP Soundwave are not the best designers as we all knows, hybrids and gallente ships still sucks.

CCP Tallest made some minor changes in fitting and He said that this is OK. Well its not. As we can see in this forum thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=29692 more PPL complains about gallente ships. What is the best Balancing Feedback: Hybrid Turrets thread has 93 pages now !!! and was viewed 56K times ! (Is this a record :) ? ). What is even more important there is any reply from CCP side.

The funniest thing is that "THE GREAT" CCP Soundwave announced that they DONE IT !! Its done, over, finished, finito, name it ! here it is :

"We’ve rebalanced small, medium and large Null ammo. I came back from vacation and Tallest had done this. He’s a pretty cool dude."

link: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3381

Man ! WOW ! You rocks ! Soundwave you with your padawan are the best designers on the planet ! How simple was that !!! 40% to falloff ! you are.... you are ... genius ! I want to thank you for your hard work ! Changing 20% to 40% in database its very hard task. You must find where it is in database and change it. nice job guys !

But seriously.

What you are going to do with galente ships and weapons ?
When changes will be done ?

Give us some info

Regards
Planetmaster

PS. Soundwave why you came back from vacation ? Lol
ugh zug
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-01-30 13:24:52 UTC
gallente do pretty well with web/scram drones. the largest issue people have are catching the targets because of the slow hull, and almost all gallente ships have drone bays. while im nether agreeing or disagreeing with the op im merely pointing out something that is often overlooked.

Want me to shut up? Remove content from my post,1B. Remove my content from a thread I have started 2B.
Liam Mirren
#3 - 2012-01-30 13:25:28 UTC
Gallente is fine now. What needs to be addressed is the following:

- Angel ships, honestly... seriously
- base falloff on ACs, while back they got a huge boost due to TE and TC affecting falloff, but they didn't bother to make it decently balanced
- scorch range, lower it

If those things happen then things will be fine.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#4 - 2012-01-30 13:28:43 UTC
The buffs were more than enough. Heck, now all my Gallente ships have like 15% extra PG I can't ever seem to fill. If anything they overdid it in that regard. Blasters are fine, the blaster boat mobility buff was perfect, rails are much better... Honestly, what do you want? A massive advantage over everyone else? Because they just fixed that sort of problem.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#5 - 2012-01-30 13:35:31 UTC
I don't usually do this, but your problem isn't hybrids.
Planetmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-01-30 13:36:11 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
The buffs were more than enough. Heck, now all my Gallente ships have like 15% extra PG I can't ever seem to fill. If anything they overdid it in that regard. Blasters are fine, the blaster boat mobility buff was perfect, rails are much better... Honestly, what do you want? A massive advantage over everyone else? Because they just fixed that sort of problem.


You wasn't flyin any gallente ship right ? Try Diemost, Brutix, Eris, Hyperion... or anything ?
Planetmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-01-30 13:37:08 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
I don't usually do this, but your problem isn't hybrids.


LOL. Im immortal scout ! Flying in my Reaper of the doom !
Liam Mirren
#8 - 2012-01-30 13:38:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Mirren
Planetmaster wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
The buffs were more than enough. Heck, now all my Gallente ships have like 15% extra PG I can't ever seem to fill. If anything they overdid it in that regard. Blasters are fine, the blaster boat mobility buff was perfect, rails are much better... Honestly, what do you want? A massive advantage over everyone else? Because they just fixed that sort of problem.


You wasn't flyin any gallente ship right ? Try Diemost, Brutix, Eris, Hyperion... or anything ?



Shield Deimos is fine, Brutix&hype suffer from lack of low slots but work fine with shield fit. Eris works fine in the role it's supposed to do.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Tore Vest
#9 - 2012-01-30 13:38:24 UTC
Babysteps in rigth direction has been taken.... ty CCP
All it needs now... is 50% more optimal/fallof for blasters....
And 50% more dps for rails... Bear

No troll.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#10 - 2012-01-30 13:38:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Planetmaster wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
The buffs were more than enough. Heck, now all my Gallente ships have like 15% extra PG I can't ever seem to fill. If anything they overdid it in that regard. Blasters are fine, the blaster boat mobility buff was perfect, rails are much better... Honestly, what do you want? A massive advantage over everyone else? Because they just fixed that sort of problem.


You wasn't flyin any gallente ship right ? Try Diemost, Brutix, Eris, Hyperion... or anything ?


I primarily fly gallente on my own time. Trust me, I know blasters. Heck, I run anoms in a deimos. And its fast as hell.
Klezmer
In Praise Of Shadows
#11 - 2012-01-30 13:41:04 UTC
Maybe if you were less bad at EvE you would be able to fly Gallente properly. There are plenty of good options.
Julyan Fox
The crossroad Co.
#12 - 2012-01-30 13:48:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Julyan Fox
Akirei Scytale wrote:
I don't usually do this, but your problem isn't hybrids.


Oh man, OP's post was entertaining to read,

but this answer kinda ended the thread didn't it?
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-01-30 13:50:27 UTC
Another fail thread asking for their weapon system to be buffed beyond anything vaguely regarding balance.

Well done, you fail.

-The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more) 
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-01-30 13:51:03 UTC
As a gal fan I have to say the fix did indeed fix all of my issues very well.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2012-01-30 13:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
CCP Tallest has proceeded with things in a very professional manner. He has addressed all the things players have brought up, and implemented them incrementally.

As a result Gallente is now still Gallente, but better, and not OP.

You can still find "bad" ships in every race, Gallente has no more or less bad ships than any other race.

.
Planetmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-01-30 13:52:43 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
As a gal fan I have to say the fix did indeed fix all of my issues very well.


good to hear that you are so happy alt !
Planetmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-01-30 13:54:42 UTC
Roime wrote:
CCP Tallest has proceeded with things in a very professional manner. He has addressed all the things players have brought up, and implemented them incrementally.

As a result Gallente is now still Gallente, but better, and not OP.

You can still find "bad" ships in every race, Gallente has no more or less bad ships than any other race.


we may try to find out how many galls have and how many Matar. Wanna try ? You will be surprised !
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#18 - 2012-01-30 13:55:01 UTC
Roime wrote:
CCP Tallest has proceeded with things in a very professional manner. He has addressed all the things players have brought up, and implemented them incrementally.

As a result Gallente is now still Gallente, but better, and not OP.

You can still find "bad" ships in every race, Gallente has no more or less bad ships than any other race.


If gallente has a single outstanding flaw, it would be how mediocre the role for its tier 3 battleship is relative to other races. The Mael, Abaddon and Rokh all have niches, even if the Rokh's isn't spectacular these days. The hyperion... sits on station undocks. Whoopie.
Planetmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-01-30 13:55:55 UTC
Julyan Fox wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
I don't usually do this, but your problem isn't hybrids.


Oh man, OP's post was entertaining to read,

but this answer kinda ended the thread didn't it?


try harder ALT ... http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1005548
Planetmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-01-30 14:01:34 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Roime wrote:
CCP Tallest has proceeded with things in a very professional manner. He has addressed all the things players have brought up, and implemented them incrementally.

As a result Gallente is now still Gallente, but better, and not OP.

You can still find "bad" ships in every race, Gallente has no more or less bad ships than any other race.


If gallente has a single outstanding flaw, it would be how mediocre the role for its tier 3 battleship is relative to other races. The Mael, Abaddon and Rokh all have niches, even if the Rokh's isn't spectacular these days. The hyperion... sits on station undocks. Whoopie.


So the question is what is the "niche" for Gallente ?
hmmm.... let me think..

GOT IT !

Diemost !! Slowest ships with shortest range ? nice niche !

Dont be idiot please.. You call this well balanced ? err.. Sorry but NO
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