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High Sec Moons, Waste of Space or Need a Facelift?
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General Abitis
Awoken Disintegration Fleet
#1 - 2012-01-27 04:51:32 UTC
I've been phishing for parts of the game that doesn't really have uses in the game then it hit me, high sec moons are pretty much useless other than running away from battle or launching high sec poses. What i'd like to propose is new features the puts high sec moons to a use, something like BPO creation from new special types of combined bpos you use from extracting new material only in high sec moons. Anyone have ideas? I am open
Jason McCoy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-01-27 06:26:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason McCoy
so you want someone else to come up with an idea that you might be thinking about but you arent sure how to express it.


CCP has said it already high sec moons wont be mineable. Why? I dunno and I duncare.

I would even suggest before looking at high sec moons change wh space moons to be mineable instead of 0.0 kspace.
Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-01-27 07:00:03 UTC
no no no and no.

this will cause every high sec moon to be taken for mining and there won't be a place for actual research/manufacturing POS.

essentially a huge nerf to high sec industry.
Umega
Solis Mensa
#4 - 2012-01-27 08:21:25 UTC
It would have to be something that doesn't pay a lot.

If it pays a lot.. like more than fuel costs. Market mess.. PI will go through the roof from all the new POSs.. these new highsec moon 'stuff' would then sky rocket and see-saw till equalibrim. Fine and dandy.. plenty of highsec moons..

But still.. you pretty much open the door for the strong and powerful to get stronger, that being the ones with the most guns.. and who controls the most guns? Yeah.. not that I personally care, but the idea would step on new people and highsec indys toes too much. While I think highsec is too safe.. this is pushing it imo, especially when they revamp wardecs and likely end dec shield possibility.

Have any idea what its like to take down a highsec large death/ewarstar POS?

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#5 - 2012-01-27 09:02:43 UTC
It would be cool... but why you post id you dont have your self any resonable idea about it realy.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Wilddragon25
The Free Luna State
#6 - 2012-01-27 14:19:22 UTC
Taking down a high sex death star is probably one of the biggest obsticals around. And you know with out dreads available there really isn't any reasonable way to take it down exept blobs. Prices of PI will go through the roof. The fuel consumption, the materials needed to build the towers and mods etc, in reality thinking more about this it would seriously boost conflict, massive entities fighting in high sec....no caps, no supers, just an old fashion blood bath...
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#7 - 2012-01-27 15:35:11 UTC
It wouldn't be a bloodbath, it would be a waste.

Corp gets wardecced, pos attacked. Pos enters reinforcement mode. Corp joins alliance, drops alliance, war Dec is gone before the reinforce timer expires. Rinse, lather, repeat.

Ccp would have to fix the war Dec mechanics first. Since dropping war decs with a Dec shield alliance counters the whole joining a corp at the last minute to spring a trap trick, ccp would really need to focus on war dec mechanics, taking time from other corrections in addition to making any new moon mechanic. So a lot of work for not much gain it seems.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-01-27 17:51:24 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Ccp would have to fix the war Dec mechanics first.

This is something they HAVE to do anyway

Wasnt this year's theme WAR?

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Realityfirst
Mini-Industries
#9 - 2012-01-28 02:14:20 UTC
Jason McCoy wrote:
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I would even suggest before looking at high sec moons change wh space moons to be mineable instead of 0.0 kspace.


UM No! Then all the large alliance move into WH space and there isnt any room for small corps and alliance that currently thrive there
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#10 - 2012-01-28 03:22:06 UTC
HiSec Moons have tons of uses. You can research, invent, manufacture, and store things there.

If you're thinking Moon mining, it would make the idea that you need x sp to compete in PvP absolutely true, as T2 would become almost as cheap as T1.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#11 - 2012-01-28 17:31:05 UTC
Might be nice if some had rings that are basicly astroid belts but have a * or something on the moon name to let you know it has a belt that can be mined. Remove a few of the normal astroid belts from game as we have way too many compared to most areas of real space.
Umega
Solis Mensa
#12 - 2012-01-28 20:13:08 UTC
Ireland VonVicious wrote:
Might be nice if some had rings that are basicly astroid belts but have a * or something on the moon name to let you know it has a belt that can be mined. Remove a few of the normal astroid belts from game as we have way too many compared to most areas of real space.


This is a decent idea.. but imo not for highsec moons. When/if they change drone loot.. thus significantly decreasing the supply of minerals into the game.. would be nice if there was another source. But not for highsec moons.. if anywhere, wh moons would be a better location for such a thing. Yes, would be a pain in the ass to get them out.. thus not entirely keeping miners hammered down on rock value, like how it is with drone loot. As well as causing large entities to not bother with the hassle.

If such a thing was done in highsec.. it would still keep miners pinned down on rock value and large entities would get involved.. possibly giving some significant enough stock to control the market.

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-01-28 21:25:14 UTC
General Abitis wrote:
high sec moons are pretty much useless other than running away from battle or launching high sec poses.


Lowsec moons are pretty much useless other than running away from battle or launching lowsec poses
Nullsec moons are pretty much useless other than running away from battle or launching nullsec poses.
Wormhole moons are pretty much useless other than running away from battle or launching wormhole poses.

What is the issue here?
General Abitis
Awoken Disintegration Fleet
#14 - 2012-01-30 03:38:25 UTC
Ireland VonVicious wrote:
Might be nice if some had rings that are basicly astroid belts but have a * or something on the moon name to let you know it has a belt that can be mined. Remove a few of the normal astroid belts from game as we have way too many compared to most areas of real space.


Ha, i think you just nailed it, i know some systems have over 42 moons in them and for what? so that ppl can launch poses to do research? i kinda think you just solved what they can do
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#15 - 2012-01-30 03:40:57 UTC
General Abitis wrote:
42 moons in them and for what? so that ppl can launch poses to do research?


Yep. ~300,000 people on Eve. Need to have enough moons to feed em all.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon