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Long range mission fits nearly obsolete?
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L'Petit Object
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-01-29 20:16:00 UTC
Since MWD's are allowed in missions. I'm beginning to experiment with MWD short range setups. My torp raven can do 1km/s. So why gimp my DPS? I stay more active and have more fun, and I finish faster. Anyone else having this experience?
Renarla
#2 - 2012-01-29 20:21:48 UTC
If it's more fun to you, then by all means do whatever you want. Some of us actually find the long range fits more fun, and I believe that not having to move at all will usually equate to faster mission times, but probably not by much depending on the specific fits involved.
Lady Aja
#3 - 2012-01-29 20:30:11 UTC
Confoirming that tachyon nightmares are outdated and antiquated. Oops
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#4 - 2012-01-29 20:37:14 UTC
Confirming that the best way to play a video game is the way that's the most fun for you.
Kalpel
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-29 20:44:51 UTC
L'Petit Object wrote:
Since MWD's are allowed in missions. I'm beginning to experiment with MWD short range setups. My torp raven can do 1km/s. So why gimp my DPS? I stay more active and have more fun, and I finish faster. Anyone else having this experience?



I hear ya on the MWD fun Big smile So I've been rolling with a Tengu HAM setup w/ MWD and I love it! ..... but do keep a long range setup close by because some missions do call for it where whole room aggro can mean a popped ship Lol

You failed to target nothing! ≡v≡ online ... (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Spineker
#6 - 2012-01-29 21:10:25 UTC
Tengu with AB and HML = Long Range Short Range Mid Range in your face range...
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#7 - 2012-01-29 21:43:28 UTC
Rail Vindis are very viable in mission fits now. Gank fit it and load up Javelin, and it's actually somewhat similar to an AC mach in terms of damage output at range....difference being you can swap to spike or antimatter and go even longer for those far off groups and rats that get stuck on the scenery.

thhief ghabmoef
Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#8 - 2012-01-29 21:47:10 UTC
L'Petit Object wrote:
Since MWD's are allowed in missions. I'm beginning to experiment with MWD short range setups. My torp raven can do 1km/s. So why gimp my DPS?


You'll still need to move around quite a bit.

Also, missions with lots of clutter can be a bit of a hassle.
L'Petit Object
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-01-30 02:44:55 UTC
Renarla wrote:
If it's more fun to you, then by all means do whatever you want. Some of us actually find the long range fits more fun, and I believe that not having to move at all will usually equate to faster mission times, but probably not by much depending on the specific fits involved.


I usually fly a rail rockh. I have a lot of fun getting the those frigs popped in half volleys at 90km. However, once I'm on the battleships it takes forver, no matter the range. Not moving makes your tank less efficient too. Hell, I'm almost convinced I shoudl be dual propping missions (mwd close, ab speed tank). Almost, not quite.

But thanks for reading. Please (you and other readers) let me know if you have any numbers on the subject.
L'Petit Object
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-01-30 02:45:49 UTC
Exploited Engineer wrote:
L'Petit Object wrote:
Since MWD's are allowed in missions. I'm beginning to experiment with MWD short range setups. My torp raven can do 1km/s. So why gimp my DPS?


You'll still need to move around quite a bit.

Also, missions with lots of clutter can be a bit of a hassle.


I saw this as well grinding level 2's in a rocket Hawk. That thing is so fast with an MWD you have trouble accidentaly flying past the ships.
L'Petit Object
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-01-30 02:46:46 UTC
mxzf wrote:
Confirming that the best way to play a video game is the way that's the most fun for you.


Whew, I was wondering. Big smile
OfBalance
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-01-30 03:27:43 UTC
I still find range beats raw dps in most situations. YMMV.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#13 - 2012-01-30 04:04:06 UTC
and how long does it take you to get to 1km/s in your raven? also how long does your cap/tank last? where in a long range setup I can just sit there and kill everything.

I did some ratting in a torp raven once, that was pretty awesome, although it was pre-nano nerf

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#14 - 2012-01-30 05:00:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
I'm so disappointed that nobody has yet quoted:

"A microwarp drive?!? In a battleship?!? Are you insane?!?"
- Solomon "Sol" Burke, Clear Skies 2

"You can't hotdog in a battleship! ... Oh what am I saying, you are going to do it anyway aren't ya?"
- Solomon "Sol" Burke, Clear Skies 3
CausticS0da
Shrubbery Acquisitions
Blohm and Voss Shipyards Alliance
#15 - 2012-01-30 05:08:00 UTC
mxzf wrote:
Confirming that the best way to play a video game is the way that's the most fun for you.


You don't have many friends, do you? OP doesn't deserve a shitpost like that.
L'Petit Object
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-01-30 05:18:41 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
and how long does it take you to get to 1km/s in your raven? also how long does your cap/tank last? where in a long range setup I can just sit there and kill everything.

I did some ratting in a torp raven once, that was pretty awesome, although it was pre-nano nerf


It takes about 3 cycles to get my raven up to full speed. I've been missioning for 2 days like this. Haven't run into a missiion that was a problem yet. But I'm not tanking. Friend in close range fit AB hyperion is tanking.

There are definitely some missions that are going to be a problem. But so far so good. But all those Angel missions, we just BURRRRN through those big BS. No kiting required. Thanks for reading and commenting
L'Petit Object
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-01-30 05:20:30 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I'm so disappointed that nobody has yet quoted:

"A microwarp drive?!? In a battleship?!? Are you insane?!?"

"You can't hotdog in a battleship! ... Oh what am I saying, you are going to do it anyway aren't ya?"

- Solomon "Sol" Burke, Clear Skies 2


I don't know if you trolled me or trolled somoeone else. But, It's working! AND FAST. That'st eh point. It's SOOO much faster than **** cruise missle/rail dps.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#18 - 2012-01-30 05:38:39 UTC
Rattle snake missions are cruise missle only even with my mwd as it uses sentry drones.

So to answer the question in your subject they are still viable.
Spineker
#19 - 2012-01-30 05:56:30 UTC
Everything is viable if you like doing so, Mach is a pain in the ass to me and thinking of selling mine off but to many people it is perfect.

We are talking PVE of course. Guns are great my second highest skill set but they take experience and knowledge and work. No button pushing monkey there.

In PVE I will take missiles over guns any day. They talk about insta hitting but with missiles after the first hit they are insta hitting. Every 3.52 seconds.

If you like to get into battles and play with guns enjoy it. Have fun with it. There is a reason Caldari excel at PVE called missiles. However you are not locked down to missiles only just buy some books.
Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-01-30 06:01:59 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I'm so disappointed that nobody has yet quoted:

"A microwarp drive?!? In a battleship?!? Are you insane?!?"

"You can't hotdog in a battleship! ... Oh what am I saying, you are going to do it anyway aren't ya?"

- Solomon "Sol" Burke, Clear Skies 2


No... the MWD on a battleship thing was clear skies 2. The hotdog in a battleship was clear skies 3 ;P

-Arazel
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