EVE General Discussion

There should be punishment for laziness and forgetfulness. That stuff should always kill you. Yet after years of play, that punishment becomes pretty damn severe. And the reward for sticking with the game for so many years only nets you higher and higher clone costs. Makes sense in a real world scenario but in a game aspect is just demoralizing.

Laziness can cost you- but simply tossing in the loss of real time (and possibly months at that) has nothing to do with gameplay. You can be lazy watching local, D-Scan, fitting for PvP when in low/null, autopiloting, spamming approach/orbit, etc---and all those will cost you material losses.

But there is no higher game mechanic than clicking on an NPC menu box with clones. There is no actual benefit, only the most severe of punishments for failing to remember this one, not often used thing. No other player benefits from the loss either. I agreed with putting implants on KM's- again it's a material loss. Loss of SP is pointless at best.

I am just fundamentally opposed to losing SP. To me that represents real time of my life I've invested into what will always be just a game.
Much of that time was spent grinding boring content so I could get to the 'meat and potatoes' of Eve. Being set back to that point again? I just wouldn't do it. I already wrap up what is nearly a part time job worth of my life into this one game-- to have that all essentially wasted because I forget to click on a box before getting back out to fight??? That is beyond ridiculous.

It's just a totally extraneous game feature.

If, by the time you've accumulated 28MP SP, you haven't learned a very fundamental, widely known mechanic, and then you proceeded to make the same mistake again right after being notified via EVEmail, why have you come to these forums for anything but to be laughed at?

Because the skills are the greatest sink in the game, check the most recent QEN even though the last one was Q4 of 2010 i doubt it would have changed, because keeping the idea of losing SP means CCP can keep you subscribed longer, you lose 1million SP from one pod kill means CCP will probably be able to keep you subscribed another 20 days more while you train it back along with the rest of the skills. LRN2EVE and update your clone, its been there since forever

Ever lost a strategic cruiser?

Kind of like a scumbag God meme.
Gives you free will.
Punishes you for using your free will.

It's a dumb mechanic.

Its a 1x skill for a reason. A reasonable lapse of time for such a powerful and expensive ship.
Yet rewarding time played with more and more expense in replacing a basic need no matter your ship of choice, then a greater amount of time lost due to sp collected rather than a flat maximum. A week at most seems detrimental and punishing enough.

True enough.

It may be a punishment system/isk sink but itdoesn't do either one well. It can easily be quite out of perportion.

I doubt that it's a very effective isk sink since I doubt it happens all that much. It is a great motivator to utilize the unsub button in some instances. Other than that, can't actually see a purpose. One mistake and it could be end game for a pilot who might otherwise stay subbed. EVE is not a popular game. It really doesn't have the luxury of shedding players.

In the past 2 minutes I have seen 49 pod mails pop up on eve-kill.net

Given we have had this for close to a decade I would say eve subs are not going to be hurt by this any time soon.