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How accurate is the Eve-Central market?
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Frank Vinci
Corleone Olive Oil Imports
#1 - 2012-01-27 17:47:59 UTC
I'm a new trader and I've been directed to Eve-Central. It looks amazing, as it combs all regions of Empire Space for orders, not just the one you're in. That's extremely helpful for me, but I just want to know how accurate that data is. I have it set to 1 hour old data by the way.
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#2 - 2012-01-27 18:14:48 UTC
It is moderately useful. It is dependent on people being online browsing the market with the scraper running in the background. It is generally good for the trade hubs but less visited regions with less active markets will usually be out of date. This is especially true for less common items in that area.

Side note: I would set your time to 24 hours. 1 hour shows only orders that have have been recorded in the last hour.

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Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#3 - 2012-01-27 18:19:42 UTC
^^ make sure you help out by downloading their scraper/uploader and running it whilst you browse the markets. It's a community effort. The more people helping the more useful it is.

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-27 18:29:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Callean Drevus
It is extremely accurate, so accurate it is painful, since their averages are influenced by anyone putting up ridiculous orders. But a new version with better checking and a much better interface is in the works, so it will only get better. Besided, they've got the trade finder, which is pretty much their best feature Cool

If you are going to download an uploader, I'd appreciate it if you downloaded the Unified Uploader from here, as it uploads to ALL the major market websites (including mine, which is why I ask of course Blink).

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Levija Saplina
Ken Interplanetary Communication
#5 - 2012-01-27 18:37:53 UTC
malaire
#6 - 2012-01-28 11:11:19 UTC
I prefer Jitonomic for price checks. It doesn't rely on users uploading price info but does that on its own. (However only does 1 update every day.)

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-01-28 13:54:41 UTC
malaire wrote:
I prefer Jitonomic for price checks. It doesn't rely on users uploading price info but does that on its own. (However only does 1 update every day.)

However, Jitanomic is run by bots, so think twice, both in terms of morality, and possible CCP actions, which translate to continuity Roll

And Jitanomic probably relies on exactly the same mechanism as the other websites, it's just automated flying around (and probably firing requests a lot faster).

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Brock Nelson
#8 - 2012-01-28 14:21:17 UTC
Callean Drevus wrote:
malaire wrote:
I prefer Jitonomic for price checks. It doesn't rely on users uploading price info but does that on its own. (However only does 1 update every day.)

However, Jitanomic is run by bots, so think twice, both in terms of morality, and possible CCP actions, which translate to continuity Roll


At least its up more often than EVE Central. I can't remember how many times I've been to central only to find its down and Jitonomic is still up.

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malaire
#9 - 2012-01-28 14:32:52 UTC
Callean Drevus wrote:
malaire wrote:
I prefer Jitonomic for price checks. It doesn't rely on users uploading price info but does that on its own. (However only does 1 update every day.)

However, Jitanomic is run by bots, so think twice, both in terms of morality, and possible CCP actions, which translate to continuity Roll

And Jitanomic probably relies on exactly the same mechanism as the other websites, it's just automated flying around (and probably firing requests a lot faster).

Market reading javascript bots are allowed by CCP.

Also I have been thinking whether it is possible to automate flying around with javascript (i.e. add waypoint, start autopilot, keep adding waypoints with javascript API). If that works (without disabling autopilot when you add waypoint) then it is also allowed.

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Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#10 - 2012-01-28 19:10:53 UTC
@Callean:
Didn't know about the unified uploader. Will shove that down peoples throats in future when they are looking for something like this. Smile

@malaire:
Make sure you disable the "deactivate autopilot at waypoint" option otherwise you'll be stuffed.

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-01-28 19:27:18 UTC
malaire wrote:
Market reading javascript bots are allowed by CCP.

Also I have been thinking whether it is possible to automate flying around with javascript (i.e. add waypoint, start autopilot, keep adding waypoints with javascript API). If that works (without disabling autopilot when you add waypoint) then it is also allowed.

I know, but I do not think that Jitanomic works that way. He'd need to have 8 accounts flying around to do that. and have everything updated every 24 hours.

I recall that on his websites blog he talks about code injection.

Flying around with waypoints is an incredibly smart idea though! That'd be very interesting to build.

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Rasz Lin
#12 - 2012-01-28 20:42:47 UTC
Callean Drevus wrote:
malaire wrote:
Market reading javascript bots are allowed by CCP.

Also I have been thinking whether it is possible to automate flying around with javascript (i.e. add waypoint, start autopilot, keep adding waypoints with javascript API). If that works (without disabling autopilot when you add waypoint) then it is also allowed.

I know, but I do not think that Jitanomic works that way. He'd need to have 8 accounts flying around to do that. and have everything updated every 24 hours.

I recall that on his websites blog he talks about code injection.

Flying around with waypoints is an incredibly smart idea though! That'd be very interesting to build.


Jitanomics = python injection, thats how they offered (do they still?) Contract price history.
Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-01-29 11:15:22 UTC
Jitonomics not sure how accurate some of those prices are. Just checked it for items I manufacture and holly heck were they off by more than 20m on the min sell/buy price. For these prices it has an order price that is more than 3 months out of date.
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#14 - 2012-01-29 18:44:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Wyke Mossari
Callean Drevus wrote:

If you are going to download an uploader, I'd appreciate it if you downloaded the Unified Uploader from here, as it uploads to ALL the major market websites (including mine, which is why I ask of course Blink).


+1 from me for this.

I've been using this for about a month now, I have all three uploads enabled and finding it a lot more reliable than Contribtastic which constantly crashed for me, lost its settings and needed a file dialog box to locate the eve directory which for some reason takes for ever to open.