Science & Industry

I don't think anyone is going to invite the 20 billion isk wolf into their personal industry space, so you won't get an optimal idea from the forums - you may of course get many propositions of various levels of honesty for someone to use your money on their behalf.

The most profitable thing changes, but if I had billions I wanted to make a reasonable percentage low effort profit on, I'd do reactions or research, not t1 manufacturing (bearing in mind where you'd have to site (and potentially defend) a reaction tower, or have standings for a highsec research tower).

To be honest if a solid chunk of that 20bil is applied to source materials, you'll probably have to spread across several things to avoid flooding whatever it is that you do, and you'll have to face the task of being a shop keeper at some point.

20b is not enough to supply an elite industry char with materials for 7 days
Its hard to give a direct answer to such a broad question. But we will try at least.

If you want to get into industry then it's best to start with something simple and then work your way trough the information madness.

I'm good with Planetary Interaction and can answer questions related to that more accurately. T1 Manufacturing is so simple that it doesn't need much explanation.

What do you want to do? [chose an option]

- Manufacturing T1
- Manufacturing T2
- Manufacturing T3
- Invention
- Reverse Engineering
- Reactions
- Planetary Interaction
- Trading

oh well ccp ate my post and it was too long to bother typing again

Well now, how about this for an insight?

You've claimed to be a "PVP pilot" for the last three years?
Take a look at what your buying habits for those three years . . . what did you need primarily and when?

More importantly, how were your spending habits influenced by your locations - i.e. were you willing to pay a premium for goods available close by rather than have to make the painstaking journey of traveling to the nearest market hub?

It's not that hard if you put your mind and some effort to it.
Obviously your original pitch at help would be futile taken at face value like that

Ye I know

When you try a bit in some industry field then you quickly find out that running lvl 3 missions pays more than anything in industry. But don't give up. If you stick to your desired profession and gather all the market data, the production requirements, work per day info, risk vs reward then you will find out that sometimes some of the nonprofitable things can give you billions per month.

I know more about PI so I'll try to calculate how much PI could pay out:
1 Account (3 characters)

HighSec
- P1 or P2 production
- 15-35 min of work per day
- pays from 300-600 mil per month

Low Sec
- Same as above but 1.8x more profit

Null/WH
- Same as above but 2.5x more profit and 50% less time invested

Owning a POCO with 0% Tax (LowSec/Null/WH)
- all profits are boosted by 10% for every production step.
- P1 --> P2 10% profit increase
- P1 --> P3 20% profit increase
- P1 --> P4 30% profit increase

It should work like that probably (the concept)

Ok but lets do a practical calculation:
- you buy P2 items and then produce them to P4
- you have 3 maxed characters
- you own all the POCOs related to your production

1 P4 needs:
- 20x P2 A
- 20x P2 B
- 20x P2 C
- 20x P2 D
- 20x P2 E
- 20x P2 F

20x P2 (A+B) --> 6x P3 A [10% Tax of 7.000 isk/unit] = Profit 42.000 isk from Tax
20x P2 (C+D) --> 6x P3 B [10% Tax of 7.000 isk/unit] = Profit 42.000 isk from Tax
20x P2 (E+F) --> 6x P3 C [10% Tax of 7.000 isk/unit] = Profit 42.000 isk from Tax

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126.000 isk profit

6x P3 (A+B+C) --> 1x P4 [10% Tax of 135.000 isk/unit]

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Combined: 261.000 isk profit per day




Ok 1 P4 gives a profit of 261.000 isk. So how many can we produce with 3 maxed characters ? 2 or 3 it depends on the P4 produced. But lets say we can do 2 per planet.

Here it comes
(2x P4 Productions)*18Planets*24hr*30days

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6.765.120.000 ISK profit per month [profit because you don't pay Tax]






When you get that hardcore in PI and use multiple accounts and watch out to not float the market then you can say its one of the most lucrative things to do in EVE. Sure at this point its not anymore passive income. A lot of work to keep it all running. But yes it is possible to buy your 20bil character with the work of 3 Accounts(54 Planets) in 1 month! No secrets told here. Just putting numbers trough my head and writing them down.


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EDIT:
Avylene your Avatar has a killer look. Love those Eyes.

Part of the fun of being an indy pilot is figuring out whats profitable and what isn't.

Build fighters/fighter bombers and work out a ratio between selling in Jita and at your alliances capital base. (Depending where you are you might want to list these on alliance contracts).

thanks

If I had 20bil, I'd probably wait a little longer, keep an eye on dev blogs.

The second they confirm they're replacing drone poop with bounties I'd buy up as much nocxium as I could get my grubby mits on, possibly saving a 5-7bil isk pool for market manipulation later on.

I'd then ship it all to Jita, wait till the patch with that change comes into effect, then flood the market at my price, buying up the undercutters and relisting at my price.

I love a spot of hysteria though :)

Not sure if anyonehas said this but with 10bill you might be able to buy t2ammo blue prints than youcanjust copy that sell it

or manufactor it your self and sell. Worst case youresell the bpo when your done and call it a good day