Jita Park Speakers Corner

Vote with your wallet. As seen by recent events, that tends to get CCP's attention fairly quick if enough people do it.

Drop by some time, but you might be killed and podded.

I do admire your position on voting for most likely to ruin EVE.

I second this motion. Lets put it to a quick vote when the population is in recess and quickly push it though.

Democracy depends on a balance, where every vote is percieved to be equal. The goons ruin that ballance and not every vote is percieved as equal with them.

Dont think it matters too much for goons in general, since every CSM wants their position back really. If only the goon CSM wanted their spots back it might be a goon problem, but seemed like they all wanted the seat again for 2012.

Say wah?


Your posts are beginning to lessen in quality lately. Maybe a secret new account holder for Tippa?

HQ Sacntums + moon mining + High NPC bounties all feeding into corporate wallets and the wallets of alliance leaders. I wish the average EVE Online player wasn't so dumb as to believe crap like what your like is spewing. Anyone with an average amount of sense knows that Null Sec alliances have access to godly amounts of ISK.

…except that moon mining isn't an ISK faucet and that the others are available in other sectors of space.
Wow. That really demonstrated in full detail what's wrong with what I just said…

…i.e. nothing. That's why they listen to me: because it's not crap and I actually have a clue what I'm talking about.
The reason you think it's crap is because you're clueless. In this case, you're clueless about what “ISK faucets” are.

Play fair Tippia at least explain the difference to the those who might be uninitiated about what the difference is between personal income generation/spending and a game faucet/sink. It is easy to get confused with the analogy if you are unaware to the terms in EvE.

I know no-one is paying you to educate the masses, but a little bit of philanthropy for forum decorum?

ISK faucet = a mechanic that adds ISK out of nowhere to the overall EVE economy.
ISK sink = a mechanic that flushes ISK into /dev/null and removes it from the overall EVE economy.

Faucets:

• NPC bounties
• NPC buy orders
• Mission rewards
• Insurance payout
• GM actions: Reimbursement for lost pods
• Character creation

Sinks:

• Market taxes & fees: Broker fees, Sales tax
• NPC sell orders
• NPC station services: Repairs, Jump clone installation, Medical clone installation/upgrade/station change, Science and industry slot rental, Ship insurance
• NPC station office fees: Rent, Impound penalties
• Wardecs
• Sovereignty fees
• PI fees: Building PI structures, Import/export tax (from NPC-owned customs offices)
• Corp & alliance fees: Corp creation, Alliance creation, Alliance upkeep, Creating/awarding medals, Corp registry ads
• Agent fees: (Certain) LP store items, Locator agent services, Courier missions w/ deposits
• CSPA Charges
• Smuggling fines
• GM Actions: Removal of bought ISK, Removal of insurance after ship reimbursement
• Character deletion

Everything else — most notably player-to-player trading — is neither: it's simply a way to move ISK from one person to the next without changing the total amount of ISK in the economy (in practice, most trading is actually a tiny ISK sink due to the taxes and broker fees). The movement of ISK in and out of your wallet is entirely irrelevant to determining if something is a faucet or sink; what matters is the source and destination of the ISK.

You may know numbers but you are failing to account for the human element. A simpletons mistake TBH, but what can you do? You can't educate some people once they have their mind made up.

The reason moon mining isnt an ISK faucet, is becaouse ISK isnt mined from them. Tech is. Then tech is traded for ISK.

People have to do missions or incursions or bounty stuff for that isk, then they trade it for teck to make items. Or miners mine tritanium then trade that for isk players recieved from missions and bounties and such.

To make mining or moon mining ISK faucets you would have to place NPC buy orders that you could sell what you mined to. Then they would be a ISK faucet.