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They have a fix as it will require a full new build they got to combine it with the current sisi build and test all fixes before deploy if it was not the weekend it would be fixed to morrow best quess monday.

Not important really, but a bit of a feature bug anyway:

Recustomization results in Finalizing not transitioning back to either the station environment or Ship Hangar now. It just hangs on the portrait stage. You can still call up Escape menu and log out, and when you log back in the portrait has changed, so no big deal, but wierd.

Man, you guys have the worst update process I've ever seen. What other game do you have to restart the client twice every time you update? Also, in the history of Eve, has there ever been a update that actually worked the first time?

Seems to me regardless of the fact that Hilmar has supposedly undergone some sort of Epiphany as regards his own Hubris Vis-a vis game development, old habits die hard.Some more nice and needed improvements in this patch, but it's clear that with this patch we once again start down the slippery slope of Devs driving sandbox change and not the players.It's also equally clear more are to come.Unecessary , uneeded and unwanted changes, specifically.

I'll be honest, I have a bit of patience when I see game changes are clearly designed to make CCP some money( as long as it's not changes of the PTW variety), as everyone needs to put bread on their table.What i dont like, and dont like to see, is evidence of a still bloated staff implementing gameplay changes so as to justify their continued employment.

CCP needs to understand that simply serving up the occasional head when the community revolts is really no way to run a business. Far better to keep the paying customers from unsubbbing and rioting in the first place.CCP counts among it's hard core player base a group of socially inept young men who cant get laid and stay home and play video games instead and the highlight of their day is mulling over the KBs and having a good **** over their latest gank stats as if it were " The Precious". CCP is quite cognizant of the fact that this part of there demographic will put up with just about any sort of abuse, as they are unprincipled people in the first place and dont particularly care they are shown no respect, as long as they can keep finding ways to generate KMs and "tears".

There is however a rather large part of the community who are a bit older, who actually have a semblance of a life, Grown men with families, some who own and operate businesses. Not a very big part, but big enough, and certainly with a fair bit of influence over the younger guys in their own corporations. These people understand the concept of things like customoer service, customer satisfaction ( and the fact that this particular part of the demographic is the part that derives it's satisfaction from shaping it's own sandbox) integrity, keeping ones word, etc etc.This is the group that CCP is poised to alienate once again.

Grown men in their 30s and 40s with multiple accounts have little patience for nonsense, especially lately, and to us it just seems like way to much of this games development is driven by either :
1) unimaginative unproductive devs and designers who provide little real content or thought out changes, as opposed to what they think will either be cool or justify their salaries, or
2) special interest groups( CSM, devs with alliance loyalties) who for there own reasons are hellbent on forcing changes to the style of gameplay.

I played this game and liked it because it adapted to the players and their styles, now it seems we are headed back to being forced to adapt our gameplay and styles to halfbaked or partisan CCP ideas ( see: FW, Neocom, mod renaming)

Ok, CCP has said that somewhere?! Linky pls!
A good idea would be to test a release a bit more BEFORE rolling it out to tens of thousands of players...

Ah thanks! And thats also prefectly logical! *)

The CCP devs info is found under
"EVE Technology and Research Center » Issues, Workarounds & Localization"
instead of under
"Home » EVE Forums » EVE Information Center » EVE Information Portal » EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 Feedback"
or
"Home » EVE Forums » EVE Information Center » EVE Information Portal » EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 Issues"

*)...CCP-logic...

Yeaa.... Peeved to all high hell. We went from being able to play in a limited fashion with extremely slow connect speed (And gods damn if that stupid neocom blink is not MORE annoying when slowed down!!!!!!!!) to not being able to play at all. It tells me "not connected to the internet" when clearly, if I can post here, I am most definitely connected. Very VERY disappointed in all of the unnecessary changes made to the interface of this game. I was contemplating buying a membership once this 60-day trial run is over, but now, I do not know if I can even continue playing period. Uncool, not fun, rverse this idiotic "patch"!!


And sidenote - Being as we ARE on trial accounts, I better get my playtime back that was lost because this patch crashed the game!

I think we should have more informative effects.

For example, I often play on non-training alts, I would prefer to have their portrait to be highlighted instead of constant blinking. And if I bork the skill progression and have whole account to be untrained, I'd like to see blinks (or highlight with clearly distinct color)

Mail messages and notifications should have different icons and different windows. Having it "blink some time after receiving new message and then highlight" is great idea. I would like to see bands with color of mailtags over the icon, so I can tell if I have unread mail in "alliance" category, and unread notifications in "sov" and "war".

OK, I've finally finished reading this thread.

My impression is not favorable. In fact, it is starting to drift back to this Summer's level of satisfaction.

1) Only trivial responses from Devs in this thread. This again creates the impression that, just as on Sisi, it isn't worth one's time to give feedback.

2) The Neocom changes, as with Incarna, seem to reflect an attitude of "we will make it prettier and to hell with how it affects game play". With *many* of the Neocom changes this is obvious. E.g., swapping location of ships and items icons arbitrarily, often used benign button immediately adjacent to dangerous undock button, removing date and stating that 'well, you can click to bring up the calendar, examine it, then close that window' as if that was just as convenient as merely glancing at bottom left, infamous Chat button, and on and on.

3) CCP failing to honor flat out statements/commitments.

Statements: "Incarna / new in station behavior will be optional on initial deployment." and
"New Neocom will be optional on initial deployment."

Delivery: "You *will* exit the ship on every dock into the new render intensive station environment." and
"Here's the new Neocom. Oooh! Isn't it pretty?"

4) Not even bothering to float the new item names past a customer review panel. The wrongness of many of the new names are clear and don't border on, they are, incompetent.


CCP, you made major changes in attitude and tone leading up to Crucible. With 1.1.1 you appear to be drifting off course again. Not surprising. When you've been sailing in the wrong direction for so long it is going to take sharp discipline to ensure the ship doesn't drift into a wrong tack again.

Bottom line: CCP needs to perform a lessons learned with the 1.1.1/Neocom patch and ask themselves why it hasn't been as well received as 1.0 and 1.1. Regarding both content of the delivery and post delivery communication with the players.

Please see this post:
Should this iteration of the new feature not meet your expectations, you can simply turn it off