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Faceless Lady
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-29 02:21:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Faceless Lady
Aldous Borrn
League of Gentleman Cartographers
#2 - 2012-01-29 02:24:28 UTC
Faceless Lady wrote:
Hi-sec is not hi-sec when gankers can pop you with impunity. Concord is worthles in these matters. Nor is there a court system in EVE to collect damages from the offender.

The insurance nerf means nothing to someone with deep pockets. There has to be a more painful deterent.

But what?

Answer: Capital Punishment + Account based fine+ No killmail.


1. concord will not just destroy your ship but also pod you.

2. EVE has account based limits in place (for example, training only one character at a time). Since criminals like to hide behind such limits and imposing fines on a toon with empty pockets is pointless , there should be an account based isk fine imposed equal to the insurance payoff to the vicitim, if not more.


I would duck and cover, right now, if I were you.

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3. Denial of killmail. HI-sec ganking should not give the crminal bragging rights. Deny killmails for all illegal hi-sec ganking.


This one's not terrible.
Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#3 - 2012-01-29 02:24:52 UTC
It seems like someone ganked your ****** hulk.
Next time, try not to carebear.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise." 
RiskyFrisky
Halliburton Heavy Industries
#4 - 2012-01-29 02:26:01 UTC  |  Edited by: RiskyFrisky
A: Suicide alts don't care if they get podded.

B: Suicide alt accounts don't carry isk.

C: They don't do it for the killmail, they do it for the item.

D: You fail, get used to game mechanics that are allowed.
Ursula LeGuinn
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-29 02:27:48 UTC
It has never begun so hard at it is beginning right now.

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Ursula LeGuinn
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-29 02:31:45 UTC
Also, when people say highsec isn't safe enough, I assume they've never been outside of highsec.

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xarjin
Galactic Deep Space Industries
Brave Collective
#7 - 2012-01-29 02:47:49 UTC
I'm motivated to toss my hat in the ring and add that the OP's comments could have legitimate merits for game mechanics.

high sec dwellers face severe consequences for wandering into nullsec regions (currently delve as an example), destroying something valuable something or killing and podding a major alliance member or asset however the reverse scenario as the OP pointed out is pretty much imbalanced game mechanics.

If someone from highsec went out to any large nullsec alliance sov controlled territory and started ganking the npc repercussions would me minimal or non existant based on current game mechanics however the alliance which controls sov would likely eradicate your pod at the first sighting anywhere in the universe.

If you follow I hope you can see how the "impunity" the OP mentioned in definitely not singular but a duality that could be enhanced upon to add new game dynamics to eve universe criminals. repercussions should be omnipotent in all areas of eve space null to highsec possibly excluding empire sov controlled lowsec where concord currently does not reside.

Facing imminent threat of loosing your ship and a security standing or contact standing demerit in highsec is more cosmetic than an effective deterrent. if you were a highsec dweller decided to go on a roam in delve and shoot up any pos or outpost you came across the repercussions would certainly not be met with impunity from the controlling alliance. I've been playing eve for nearly 4 years and have always been curious how this could be overlooked as potential for adding a new paradigm for the game's pvp mechanics.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#8 - 2012-01-29 04:23:39 UTC
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ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#9 - 2012-01-29 04:27:16 UTC
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Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
met worst
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-01-29 06:08:15 UTC  |  Edited by: met worst
. bah wasted. he wants it locked.
Ai Shun
#11 - 2012-01-29 07:04:19 UTC
xarjin wrote:
Facing imminent threat of loosing your ship and a security standing or contact standing demerit in highsec is more cosmetic than an effective deterrent. if you were a highsec dweller decided to go on a roam in delve and shoot up any pos or outpost you came across the repercussions would certainly not be met with impunity from the controlling alliance. I've been playing eve for nearly 4 years and have always been curious how this could be overlooked as potential for adding a new paradigm for the game's pvp mechanics.


You need to ***** at Concord. Aren't they equivalent to a nullsec alliance in effect? And doesn't security standing already represent the type of love a nullsec alliance would feel for anyone dipping a toe into their space?
ISD Grossvogel
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2012-01-29 07:20:02 UTC
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