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Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#81 - 2012-01-28 18:41:20 UTC
Blade M Howser wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Blade M Howser wrote:
seperating you from your alt is impossible because 1 without the other this would have never happened.
wgy didnt you say i got GREEDY SAW A OPPORTUNITY im sure both your toons benefited the same because in the end it was still the same person using the key board.
i think you and your alt should be banned from incursions !!
IDIOT


I didn't earn isk on this.


you might not have made isk but your alt that you were in control of did if not then there would not be an investigation of the ship replacement fund ....will your alt be paying every one that lost millions because of your actions


No one got paid from the ship reimbursement fund due to my actions. My alt did not earn isk either.
Tash'k Omar
Indefinite Mass
#82 - 2012-01-28 21:28:48 UTC
EnslaverOfMinmatar wrote:
I am Endeavor Starfleet.

OH ****!!

/wrists


Lawl. Considering how upset he gets when you misspell his name I think he would spell it correctly here!
Xiozor
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#83 - 2012-01-28 22:03:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Xiozor
I flew with Ammzi from right back in the first days of Incursions but quit when stuff got stale and beardrama began to overflow, seemed to be one of the only guys without his head up his ass.

+1 to this thread.
Blade M Howser
0........0
#84 - 2012-01-28 22:27:01 UTC
ok you have cleared up the fact you or your alt in no way made any isk from the ship replacement program

so exactly what is that program intended for if no one get reimbursed isk they lost wile running with btl fleets and lose a ship?

my assumption is that btl is scamming ppl and i know alot of ppl who no longer joins BTL PUBLIC channel or fly in their fleets

because of this incident . my guess more ppl will follow and btl will end soon.

you do realize your name will be part of eve history from know on..☺Bear
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#85 - 2012-01-28 22:47:17 UTC
BTL Pub reimburses logistic losses in assault, headquarter and mom fleets.
Initially the reimbursement was only for logistic losses in mom fleets since the vast majority of the ISK comes from the mom loot that is auctioned off.
The losses you speak of are mostly DPS and those few logis are unfortunately not covered because it wasn't a BTL fleet.
It would be the similar as saying Rooks and Kings should reimburse my logi, because I lost it in a Pandemic Legion fleet.

Just an example.
Besbin
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#86 - 2012-01-28 23:05:46 UTC
I support this product and/or service.

+1s for the Ammz Meister :-)
Killa Von Murderer
Doomheim
#87 - 2012-01-28 23:17:32 UTC
I actually liked you a lot better when you weren't pretending to be noble.
Blade M Howser
0........0
#88 - 2012-01-28 23:46:51 UTC
Killa Von Murderer wrote:
I actually liked you a lot better when you weren't pretending to be noble.


yes he messed a good thing up and trying to play it like he did ccp a big service .
every thing he did was for his own amusment making himself look like a saint.
now that the sh*t hit the fan he can not accept any responsibility for his actions and his alts actions even though there was only 1 person setting behind the key board .
1 he should be permanetly banned from all incursions
2. any one wronged by his dirty dealings should suicide gank him daily
3. any one not wronged by him should should gank him daily
4.he should stop making excuses. ..aka - the bill clinton defence...i did not have sexual relations whith monica...lmao
VIncent Vance
Doomheim
#89 - 2012-01-29 00:42:16 UTC
Blade M Howser wrote:
Killa Von Murderer wrote:
I actually liked you a lot better when you weren't pretending to be noble.


yes he messed a good thing up and trying to play it like he did ccp a big service .
every thing he did was for his own amusment making himself look like a saint.
now that the sh*t hit the fan he can not accept any responsibility for his actions and his alts actions even though there was only 1 person setting behind the key board .
1 he should be permanetly banned from all incursions
2. any one wronged by his dirty dealings should suicide gank him daily
3. any one not wronged by him should should gank him daily
4.he should stop making excuses. ..aka - the bill clinton defence...i did not have sexual relations whith monica...lmao



oh FFS, don't you have something better to do than spew your bile all over the keyboard???
Quite the Contrary
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2012-01-29 00:43:00 UTC
Blade M Howser wrote:
Killa Von Murderer wrote:
I actually liked you a lot better when you weren't pretending to be noble.


yes he messed a good thing up and trying to play it like he did ccp a big service .
every thing he did was for his own amusment making himself look like a saint.
now that the sh*t hit the fan he can not accept any responsibility for his actions and his alts actions even though there was only 1 person setting behind the key board .
1 he should be permanetly banned from all incursions
2. any one wronged by his dirty dealings should suicide gank him daily
3. any one not wronged by him should should gank him daily
4.he should stop making excuses. ..aka - the bill clinton defence...i did not have sexual relations whith monica...lmao


The butt-hurt is strong with this one!

As far as I can tell he's accepted responsibility for his actions completely.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#91 - 2012-01-29 01:38:03 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Roxwar wrote:

So you spend a year building up trust and respect from thousands of players, players who turn to you for advice ect, then when YOU get bored of incursions, you ruin it for the thousands who's respect you gained over the previous 12months just because YOU'd had enough?



I haven't betrayed them, at all times I worked for the incursion community. Giving them a voice on the forums and a skirt to pull at CCP.
I still do incursions, as a matter of fact I FC'ed a vanguard fleet today from BTL.
I never worked "12 months" to get up in the chains and betray anyone, that was not the goal and will never be (betrayal that is).
At the end of the day if WE made CCP realize how important incursions are both as a feature for itself and how it is affecting people in EVE regardless of system sec status then we've all accomplished something great.


Learning the ropes so you can start mass interdiction fleets = Betrayal

Learning the ropes so you can support and encourage fake logi fleets to deprive BTL of funds = Betrayal


I was full time multibox / blitz L4 missioneer.

Learned that this caused super massive ISK inflation I joined 2 other guys who started posting statistics about how much it was possible to make per hour and we 3 got L4 missions nerfed.

To you it will sound stupid, to me it sounds loving the game above own's selfish interests and wanting to remove the dangers of killing EvE's economy.

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Umega
Solis Mensa
#92 - 2012-01-29 02:29:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Umega
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Roxwar wrote:

So you spend a year building up trust and respect from thousands of players, players who turn to you for advice ect, then when YOU get bored of incursions, you ruin it for the thousands who's respect you gained over the previous 12months just because YOU'd had enough?



I haven't betrayed them, at all times I worked for the incursion community. Giving them a voice on the forums and a skirt to pull at CCP.
I still do incursions, as a matter of fact I FC'ed a vanguard fleet today from BTL.
I never worked "12 months" to get up in the chains and betray anyone, that was not the goal and will never be (betrayal that is).
At the end of the day if WE made CCP realize how important incursions are both as a feature for itself and how it is affecting people in EVE regardless of system sec status then we've all accomplished something great.


Learning the ropes so you can start mass interdiction fleets = Betrayal

Learning the ropes so you can support and encourage fake logi fleets to deprive BTL of funds = Betrayal


I was full time multibox / blitz L4 missioneer.

Learned that this caused super massive ISK inflation I joined 2 other guys who started posting statistics about how much it was possible to make per hour and we 3 got L4 missions nerfed.

To you it will sound stupid, to me it sounds loving the game above own's selfish interests and wanting to remove the dangers of killing EvE's economy.


BLASPHEMY!!

Surely you lie.. anyone else with the ideals of limiting Incursions is automaticlly label'd a 'griefer'! And thus.. are not aloud to be selfless in nature based upon stereotypes.. and assuming who someone is without actually getting to know them. This can not be!

Why.. only those that approve of current Incursion farming are surely not the griefers, nor are they selfish as they screw over the home resident capsule-pilots in those hit systems with weeks of sansha attacks, the innocent civilians captured by Sansha upon the planets/moons, the mass amounts of LP poured into the game drowning out the LP of those with less time on their hands or are less fornuate in fleets, and the never ceasing Isk faucet that runs 23/7 that used to run without issue until recently.

THIS IS MADNESS!!

The idea that label'd griefers are actually trying to help the economy, the lifeblood that coarses within EVE...

 Ume-Pro Studios
Endeavour Starfleet
#93 - 2012-01-29 04:28:47 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
BTL Pub reimburses logistic losses in assault, headquarter and mom fleets.
Initially the reimbursement was only for logistic losses in mom fleets since the vast majority of the ISK comes from the mom loot that is auctioned off.
The losses you speak of are mostly DPS and those few logis are unfortunately not covered because it wasn't a BTL fleet.
It would be the similar as saying Rooks and Kings should reimburse my logi, because I lost it in a Pandemic Legion fleet.

Just an example.


You know. I love how you so calmly post stuff as if it is just an every day thing.

How do you explain away your fake logi fleets costing people that much? F them?
Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
#94 - 2012-01-29 05:09:05 UTC
Highsec farming of any kind should never be very lucrative. Eve does best when there is a strong risk vs reward element. This does not really exist in incursions right now. Personally I would like to see incursion space remove concord and gate guns. Else have some way players can fight for sansha against other players. Another possibility would be to nerf income in highsec incursions dramatically.

Thanks for drawing more attention to the issues with incursions :)
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#95 - 2012-01-29 12:49:13 UTC
Covert Kitty wrote:
Highsec farming of any kind should never be very lucrative. Eve does best when there is a strong risk vs reward element. This does not really exist in incursions right now. Personally I would like to see incursion space remove concord and gate guns. Else have some way players can fight for sansha against other players. Another possibility would be to nerf income in highsec incursions dramatically.

Thanks for drawing more attention to the issues with incursions :)


In another 2 MMOs I know, there is a featured called "play as < XXXX >" where you can temporarily impersonate XXXX which is a different species / class.

CCP should just let players impersonate Sanshas and then let the fun begin. That'd be actual live content.

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2012-01-29 13:46:02 UTC
So basically what I get is that Darius III is Ammzi's puppet ... so why exactly would you vote Darius into the CSM? Vote Ammzi lol ! 
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Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#97 - 2012-01-29 14:41:52 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
So basically what I get is that Darius III is Ammzi's puppet ... so why exactly would you vote Darius into the CSM? Vote Ammzi lol !


Oh no, I am not near that evil to run for CSM. Blink
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2012-01-29 17:47:51 UTC
So you ran them into the ground and now you think they pay a lot?

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#99 - 2012-01-29 18:45:54 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
So you ran them into the ground and now you think they pay a lot?


Oh no, we thought they would be nerfed from day one.
But we saw nothing of the nerfhammer. Straight

I want a balancing and improvement of incursions. Not a nerf. Please refer to the feedback thread in general discussion, there is so much room for improvements in incursions.
Weiland Taur
The Icarus Expedition
Solyaris Chtonium
#100 - 2012-01-29 20:17:23 UTC
As I have posted before, well played Krissada.

That having been reiterated I am confused as to what political benefit revealing your alter ego has. While the Incursion Interdiction appears to be both noble in its aim and dynamic in its gameplay potential the pulling back of the curtain on what should have remained back room dealings reduces those dealings to sophomoric failings and begs one to question how much personal ego has snuck into the equation. Now the villain has been revealed to be the friend and instead of dying nobly wants to be let back into the village. Rage slowly smolders until all it can sustain is a weak and slightly damp group hug.

My popcorn has gone stale.

Kirssada was a welcome breath of fresh air in the stale room of typical CCP flawed gameplay management. Ammzi I am sure is a great FC but not needed in this otherwise wonderful Meta Drama.

You have to love the sandbox.