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Why does caldari militia fail? Your viewsplease
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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#361 - 2012-01-25 04:02:02 UTC
Galatica789 wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
Galatica789 wrote:
Caldari isnt a mitlia, its a missioning coaltion, Damar/Bad deliveryman can confirm


Confirming we missioned over 220 kills this month with about 6 members. More missioning planed, because some basterds returned from vacations in serious pvp corps. We are all adicted to fw missioning. Day without missioning is day wasted.



Confirming 220 Caldari Navy BCU's were made by 6 squids in a month


Who are you anyway?
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#362 - 2012-01-25 06:41:33 UTC
Izlare wrote:
Can't we all just get along?

Squids kill Frogs
Frogs kill Squids

It shouldn't be that hard but I think there is a lot of hate within the Cal Ranks.


If they did that our Militia chat would be just as quiet as Amarr's.
Galatica789
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#363 - 2012-01-25 15:16:32 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
Galatica789 wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
Galatica789 wrote:
Caldari isnt a mitlia, its a missioning coaltion, Damar/Bad deliveryman can confirm


Confirming we missioned over 220 kills this month with about 6 members. More missioning planed, because some basterds returned from vacations in serious pvp corps. We are all adicted to fw missioning. Day without missioning is day wasted.



Confirming 220 Caldari Navy BCU's were made by 6 squids in a month


Who are you anyway?


Im you, in the past......
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#364 - 2012-01-25 15:55:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Hidden Snake
Mutnin wrote:
Izlare wrote:
Can't we all just get along?

Squids kill Frogs
Frogs kill Squids

It shouldn't be that hard but I think there is a lot of hate within the Cal Ranks.


If they did that our Militia chat would be just as quiet as Amarr's.



our militia chat is full of gal alts and u and my smack if I an in mood.... start killing stuff .... http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1295&view=corp_kills&m=01&y=2012
Dark Pangolin
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#365 - 2012-01-25 21:29:07 UTC
I have an idea...if you are in a GalMil corp and you never have any targets to shoot at...join CalMil...that way you can shoot all the Gals who are plentiful...

Also DIE SILLY THREAD DIE!
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#366 - 2012-01-25 23:03:10 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:
Mutnin wrote:
Izlare wrote:
Can't we all just get along?

Squids kill Frogs
Frogs kill Squids

It shouldn't be that hard but I think there is a lot of hate within the Cal Ranks.


If they did that our Militia chat would be just as quiet as Amarr's.



our militia chat is full of gal alts and u and my smack if I an in mood.... start killing stuff .... http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1295&view=corp_kills&m=01&y=2012


You are doing it wrong, you are not supposed to kill gallente, you should just die.
Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard
#367 - 2012-01-26 23:56:28 UTC
Dark Pangolin wrote:
I have an idea...if you are in a GalMil corp and you never have any targets to shoot at...join CalMil...that way you can shoot all the Gals who are plentiful...

Also DIE SILLY THREAD DIE!


Hmmmm. There is yet another example of the treacherous Caldari way of thinking. Fortunately, most Gallente have the decency not to do that.

Speaking for myself, I don't play as much during this month, but when I increase my activity again, I hope, that the bunch of sorry bums that is Caldari militia stumbles upon some kind of personnel renaissance bloom. If I were a caring Caldari capsuleer freshly without purpose, I would certainly join the Militia exactly for the reason you pointed out. And also because I like the hopeless struggle atmosphere that goes with the underdogs.
Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#368 - 2012-01-27 00:04:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Shaalira D'arc
Dark Pangolin wrote:
I have an idea...if you are in a GalMil corp and you never have any targets to shoot at...join CalMil...that way you can shoot all the Gals who are plentiful...


It's not really an option for a lot of pilots, seeing as doing stuff in GalMil wrecks your Caldari standings. That is, unless you've avoided missions and plexing altogether.

It's far more feasible for a former FDU pilot to switch to Amarr than it is to switch to the Caldari.
Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#369 - 2012-01-27 00:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Smacker
Shaalira D'arc wrote:

It's far more feasible for a former FDU pilot to switch to Amarr than it is to switch to the Caldari.

If you are able to get into Amarr, your Caldari standing comes back very quickly. Should be good to go after 4-5 promotions. After that, the issue would be restoring State Protectorate, which is likely shot if you blew up a lot of plex npc's.

I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#370 - 2012-01-27 00:51:06 UTC
Dirk Smacker wrote:
Shaalira D'arc wrote:

It's far more feasible for a former FDU pilot to switch to Amarr than it is to switch to the Caldari.

If you are able to get into Amarr, your Caldari standing comes back very quickly. Should be good to go after 4-5 promotions. After that, the issue would be restoring State Protectorate, which is likely shot if you blew up a lot of plex npc's.


It's podding enemy militia members that gets you to -10 real fast with State Pro.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#371 - 2012-01-27 08:21:10 UTC
chatgris wrote:
Dirk Smacker wrote:
Shaalira D'arc wrote:

It's far more feasible for a former FDU pilot to switch to Amarr than it is to switch to the Caldari.

If you are able to get into Amarr, your Caldari standing comes back very quickly. Should be good to go after 4-5 promotions. After that, the issue would be restoring State Protectorate, which is likely shot if you blew up a lot of plex npc's.


It's podding enemy militia members that gets you to -10 real fast with State Pro.


State Protectorate standing has nothing to do with joining militia.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#372 - 2012-01-27 08:31:49 UTC
Yes podding enemy militia (that is, members of the militia NPC corp, you can pop players in player corps as much as you please) gives you negative standing with the militia corp itself. However your standing with the npc militia corp has no effect on your eligibility to join the militia because the prerequisites for joining a militia are based on your overall standing with an empire. Any friendly fire (to non flashies) while being a member of an empires militia will cause severe standing loss towards that empire. Also, ranking up and doing missions will lower your standings towards the opposite militia's empire. If you do not mission and do not plex, you cannot ruin your standings.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#373 - 2012-01-27 09:54:56 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
Mutnin wrote:
Izlare wrote:
Can't we all just get along?

Squids kill Frogs
Frogs kill Squids

It shouldn't be that hard but I think there is a lot of hate within the Cal Ranks.


If they did that our Militia chat would be just as quiet as Amarr's.



our militia chat is full of gal alts and u and my smack if I an in mood.... start killing stuff .... http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1295&view=corp_kills&m=01&y=2012


You are doing it wrong, you are not supposed to kill gallente, you should just die.

Well we prefer the way they die for federation rather we dieing for the state .... However the process of changing mindset of cali "leaders" is kinda painful. But in general we fail .... As usual IBS fail .... Accident here, accident there and we are no.2 on caldari kllboard ;)
Dark Pangolin
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#374 - 2012-01-27 14:47:21 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
Mutnin wrote:
Izlare wrote:
Can't we all just get along?

Squids kill Frogs
Frogs kill Squids

It shouldn't be that hard but I think there is a lot of hate within the Cal Ranks.


If they did that our Militia chat would be just as quiet as Amarr's.



our militia chat is full of gal alts and u and my smack if I an in mood.... start killing stuff .... http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1295&view=corp_kills&m=01&y=2012


You are doing it wrong, you are not supposed to kill gallente, you should just die.

Well we prefer the way they die for federation rather we dieing for the state .... However the process of changing mindset of cali "leaders" is kinda painful. But in general we fail .... As usual IBS fail .... Accident here, accident there and we are no.2 on caldari kllboard ;)


You will be No. 1 if Damar actually ever goes to sleep. I play this game too much...but that man is crazy. :) Good at what he does though :P
Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#375 - 2012-01-27 15:43:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Smacker
Bad Messenger wrote:
chatgris wrote:
[quote=Dirk Smacker][quote=Shaalira D'arc]
State Protectorate standing has nothing to do with joining militia.


Right, but not being able to run missions would deter some.

And I didn't realize podding is what kills your enemy militia corp standing. Probably why I'm nearly -10 with FDU. I actually didn't even notice it until I went to repair my empire standings. I just figured it was from plexing.


[quote]"Also, ranking up and doing missions will lower your standings towards the opposite militia's empire."


It's not the missions. The promotions give you a bump with your empire, and you get the negative bumps you would normally get from a faction standing increase.

I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#376 - 2012-01-27 18:47:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
I came back to Gallente Militia for the 2nd time around after being gone for months. Aside from an occasional mission running bomber, it is tough to find Caldari war targets. No wonder half of Qcats has gone pirate; they have to resort to shooting neutrals in order to pew.

I'm really hoping more people join and help Caldari. Otherwise, I may need to join the Minmatar side and see how that works out.

PS- I play late US EST TZ from 10pm -1am.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#377 - 2012-01-28 07:32:58 UTC
Dirk Smacker wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:

State Protectorate standing has nothing to do with joining militia.


Right, but not being able to run missions would deter some.

And I didn't realize podding is what kills your enemy militia corp standing. Probably why I'm nearly -10 with FDU. I actually didn't even notice it until I went to repair my empire standings. I just figured it was from plexing.


Quote:
"Also, ranking up and doing missions will lower your standings towards the opposite militia's empire."


It's not the missions. The promotions give you a bump with your empire, and you get the negative bumps you would normally get from a faction standing increase.


Killing enemy faction rats gives small standing loss. I shot 2 years rats in militia and i am still able to go any highsec with diplomacy 4.

If you do FW missions and do those where you should kill some structure you will get approx 100x more standing loss that in those where you kill commander.

Best way to wreck faction standing is do normal lvl4 missions where you kill opposite faction ships. It seems that in FW that standing loss is lowered quite much, i do not exact value but i would say approx 100x times less except structures.

Also killing your own militia members wrecks quite fast your own faction standing.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#378 - 2012-01-28 11:55:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Shaalira D'arc wrote:
Dark Pangolin wrote:
I have an idea...if you are in a GalMil corp and you never have any targets to shoot at...join CalMil...that way you can shoot all the Gals who are plentiful...


It's not really an option for a lot of pilots, seeing as doing stuff in GalMil wrecks your Caldari standings. That is, unless you've avoided missions and plexing altogether.

It's far more feasible for a former FDU pilot to switch to Amarr than it is to switch to the Caldari.


It's not that hard to get around this.. I was in Minmatar and had both -10 with 12th crusade & State Pro. It's very simple to get your self into any Militia while still having bad standing by using a noob alt to create a corp. You simply run the basic help missions with a new char and get the standings to .5. After that just toss him in a corp and after a week that corp can join FW.

After that you just have to either farm the hell out of level 1's or run plexes to get your standings back, but you have to do it with-in 1 week of joining the noob aklt's corp.

Right now I only have bad standings with Gallente which would get me shot in high sec if I left FW. To fix it I'd only have to rejoin Minmatar (still have .99 with the Minmatar) and run some missions for a short time or use the alt method to join Gallente to run their missions which would fix it faster.
Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#379 - 2012-01-28 14:52:49 UTC
Do alliances have npc standings?

I'm wondering if a corp can switch sides regardless of corp standing if they joined an alliance that was in the enemy militia.

I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one.
Alexei Orlov
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#380 - 2012-01-28 14:58:33 UTC
Dirk Smacker wrote:
Do alliances have npc standings?

I'm wondering if a corp can switch sides regardless of corp standing if they joined an alliance that was in the enemy militia.


I cannot find it at the moment, but I read that all the corps in the Alliance must qualify on standings or the whole Alliance is removed from the Militia.