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A tale of innocence and Betrayal, Woe and Glee (warning LONG)

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EnslaverOfMinmatar
You gonna get aped
#21 - 2012-01-28 03:30:15 UTC
Too short; write more.

Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07
Endeavour Starfleet
#22 - 2012-01-28 04:16:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Endeavour Starfleet
Darius III wrote:
Calisto Fox wrote:
Lots of moronic drivel


LOLS the guy stands up for what he believes in and shanks thousands along the way, whats not to love?

As far as the self-important CSM, what does The Mittani have to do with any of this?



Stands up for what he believes? In reality in my opinion it was pure ego.

It is quite funny tho. He is still doing stuff in BTL. Gank a single ship and you are banned and blacklisted. Lay waste to entire fleets with fake logis and destroy incursions and you can stay.

Wut?

BTW. Protect the land? You want it nuked from orbit instead in my opinion. Try moar to hide that.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#23 - 2012-01-28 06:50:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathan Jameson
Being a wormhole guy and not an Incursion guy, I'm not actually sure who this "Krissada" is. >_>

EDIT: Oh...there's another wall-of-text thread that answers that question. Roll

http://www.wormholes.info
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#24 - 2012-01-28 07:25:22 UTC
ENDEVOR Starfleet wrote:

Protect the land? You want it nuked from orbit instead in my opinion.


You moron QFT. The "land' is the land of New Eden, your guys hurt the land by ISK Injection without risk. Just go away please.

Hmmm
Endeavour Starfleet
#25 - 2012-01-28 07:37:04 UTC
Yet there is no direct evidence of this "hurt the land" Or that incursions are risk free. Only ramblings of butthurt nullsec overlords that can't get members into their **** CTAs. And their wannabees in hisec.

Good news is that there are ideas that will make incursions better that do not involve nuking them from orbit. Here is one you can feast your eyes on in between kissing incursion nukes https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=61055&p=8

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#26 - 2012-01-28 08:41:35 UTC
As a neutral that does not undock in space vessels nor participate in the kind of activities being discussed here i admit my input may not be the most digestible nor perhaps relevant.

That said having been enlightened to the realities of the farming techniques and the consequences that this has on the community, several things have genuinely startled me.

Plex prices aside.

The shiny ships that I see advertised as available for fleets, in particular those of players who are less than 3 months old is mind boggling. Something is wrong.

In addition, as a humble market trader the day i saw a 3 month old player lately scoff / nay, sneer in amarr solar system local he had made a bill whoring incursions in less than 12 hours opened my eyes.

Shiny or gtfo fleet wise? If i chose to participate i would already feel excluded :(

Heh, to think there have been tear threads suggesting that CCP should act against those doing incursions as intended a la no farming, just highlights the depth and hunger of the underlying greed.

+1 to those who fight the noble cause.

Concord Approved Trader
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-01-28 11:21:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Singeabooty Raj
Reading between the lines and in light of behaviour observed in game Endeavour Starfleet has to be identified as a greedy incursion farmer.

Black Man with Goggles
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-01-28 15:31:27 UTC
Darius III wrote:
your guys hurt the land by ISK Injection without risk. Just go away please.

What hurt? Repeating something often =/= true.
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
i admit my input may not be the most digestible nor perhaps relevant.

Right on both counts...
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
That said having been enlightened to the realities of the farming techniques and the consequences that this has on the community, several things have genuinely startled me.

what consequences?
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
Plex prices aside.

Demand is greater than supply - whats the problem?
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
The shiny ships that I see advertised as available for fleets, in particular those of players who are less than 3 months old is mind boggling. Something is wrong.

I don't run incursions, but several of my friends do - on alts. Prove the < 3 mos olds aren't alts of established players.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-01-28 15:32:18 UTC
...continued...
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
In addition, as a humble market trader the day i saw a 3 month old player lately scoff / nay, sneer in amarr solar system local he had made a bill whoring incursions in less than 12 hours opened my eyes.

Because we all believe everything we read in local... Roll

Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
Shiny or gtfo fleet wise? If i chose to participate i would already feel excluded :(

Market trader doesn't know how to participate in PVE? Who's alt are you?

Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
Heh, to think there have been tear threads suggesting that CCP should act against those doing incursions as intended a la no farming, just highlights the depth and hunger of the underlying greed.

Coming from a market trader the greed comment is laughable...

Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
+1 to those who fight the noble cause.

Thought we were talking about eve?

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#30 - 2012-01-28 15:49:12 UTC
Darius III wrote:

Illustrative story.


I liked it. So you're saying now is not a good time to try Incursion running for the first time? Damn, I miss all the good content.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Zubrette
R3d Fire
#31 - 2012-01-28 16:36:53 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Yet there is no direct evidence of this "hurt the land" Or that incursions are risk free. Only ramblings of butthurt nullsec overlords that can't get members into their **** CTAs. And their wannabees in hisec.

Good news is that there are ideas that will make incursions better that do not involve nuking them from orbit. Here is one you can feast your eyes on in between kissing incursion nukes https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=61055&p=8



Does talking out of your ass always come so easily?
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#32 - 2012-01-30 00:18:28 UTC
Zubrette wrote:
Endevorr Starfleet wrote:
I SHALL ENDEVOR TO BE A BETTER POSTER. SIGNED ENDEVOR.


Does talking out of your ass always come so easily?


Why do the least informed posters make the most replies to any given subject, I'll never know. Sometimes I endevor to enlighten them, sometimes notBear

Hmmm
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#33 - 2012-01-30 04:18:12 UTC
D3 for CSM7.

That is all.

Ni.
Karah Serrigan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-01-30 05:44:27 UTC
So is this about how you ganked 3 incursionsrunners and prevented them from running incursions for a few hours because you finished the mothership sites?
What an accomplishment, well done. /golfclap
Shukuzen Kiraa
Wildlands Tactical Response Unit
Out of the Blue.
#35 - 2012-01-30 07:10:24 UTC
Darius III wrote:


You moron


When you start your posts with an insult like a little whiny baby, the rest of your post is not worth reading. This applies to all of your posts so I never get to find out what you're trying to say.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-01-30 07:17:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Warbird
Darius III wrote:
such wonton destruction.


So... This was about you hating Chinese food?

edit : Also this:

Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:
When you start your posts with an insult like a little whiny baby, the rest of your post is not worth reading. This applies to all of your posts so I never get to find out what you're trying to say.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#37 - 2012-01-30 07:36:35 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
Shiny or gtfo fleet wise? If i chose to participate i would already feel excluded :(

Market trader doesn't know how to participate in PVE? Who's alt are you?


Perhaps one who learned to PvE before incursions came out?

You do realize that prior to incursions, most people who did pve didn't use shiny ships because of the risks involved. L4s didn't pay out enough to be able to replace the shiny ships if you lost them, so only those who ran so many missions they could afford to lose multiple shinys ever flew them.

Now, they are basically required if you want to do the content at all.

Sorry, as an owner of quite a few high priced ships, I have to say thats a bunch of bull. The income should not be high enough to support losing those ships with the kind of frequency that needs to happen with that kind of payout.

Make sense?

In short, unless its ALOT harder than a 10/10, it shouldn't be paying out as much as a 10/10 in highsec(and they do, once you figure in how often you get interrupted running plex in nullsec)

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#38 - 2012-01-30 08:53:25 UTC
Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:
Darius III wrote:


You moron


When you start your posts with an insult like a little whiny baby, the rest of your post is not worth reading. This applies to all of your posts so I never get to find out what you're trying to say.


Perhaps your words have merit, and I should not be insulting insulting people in an angry tone . Having read literally hundreds of thousands of misinformed posts by Endevor will do that to a person. Either she is willfully ignorant, or a master of subtle trolling. I just can't tell whether she really think there is a "0.0 conspiracy" or I am getting trolled. Evidence points towards stupidity though....

Hmmm
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#39 - 2012-01-30 09:42:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom Boom Longtime
Asuri Kinnes, Big smile.

Why do peeps get so defensive when their greedy Interstellar Kredit farming techniques are placed under jeopardy or scrutiny?

Relax. This is a game.

Edit. Did Post #26 contain sarcasm?

Concord Approved Trader
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-01-30 10:11:53 UTC
With regards to the recent actions of noble capsuleers, as a neutral observer to the whole stramash, suffice to say I have witnessed those inclined towards greedy farming techniques having been acting akin to that of hungry Augustus Gloop being denied his daily supply of Willy Wonka candy bars.

Black Man with Goggles
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