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Why is PVP boring?

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2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#1 - 2012-01-28 03:38:42 UTC
Why is PVP boringQuestion










Thoughts please... Straight










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Renarla
#2 - 2012-01-28 03:43:26 UTC
Maybe this isn't the game for you...?
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#3 - 2012-01-28 03:46:14 UTC
Renarla wrote:
Maybe this isn't the game for you...?



It was for many years. Any thoughts?
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#4 - 2012-01-28 03:47:24 UTC
Because according to eve-kill, you don't do it much?
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#5 - 2012-01-28 03:48:20 UTC
I don't find it boring...

Mind you, I don't engage in the PvP pew pew area, but I love watching and waiting as the ships fight at the undock, hoping one will fall so I can swoop in and take their gory remains,.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#6 - 2012-01-28 03:49:32 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
Because according to eve-kill, you don't do it much?



Ok? any thoughts as to why? this thread needs to contain more "thought"!!
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#7 - 2012-01-28 03:52:09 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Corina Jarr wrote:
I don't find it boring...

Mind you, I don't engage in the PvP pew pew area, but I love watching and waiting as the ships fight at the undock, hoping one will fall so I can swoop in and take their gory remains,.



So you play that game, I also know why many love to mine game and trade game, some even haul game. But any thoughts on why PVP is boring?

Ok I will start with a thought I had, one of many, maybe it is because everyone zerg/blob and all of PVP is just about trying to bait and that's it.

Maybe gameplay feels old and stale. Just a thought, now your turn.
Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#8 - 2012-01-28 04:00:40 UTC
Are you waiting for PvP or looking for PvP?

Looking is never boring.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-01-28 04:01:28 UTC
PvP is boring because instead of using the last 5 days of my sub playing the game, I choose to come and shitpost on the forums. Any thoughts?

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently

2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#10 - 2012-01-28 04:03:32 UTC
Sara XIII wrote:
Are you waiting for PvP or looking for PvP?

Looking is never boring.



Looking, always looking, I would even bail on alliance fleets just to look for it instead of having to wait and roll your thumbs for hours. Guess what? looking sucks. Enter system either 2 things will happen, everyone docks or... they blob you, snooze zzz and even if you do get a fight, a fun one which happens once in a blue moon, it is not so "fun".
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#11 - 2012-01-28 04:06:20 UTC
T' Elk wrote:
PvP is boring because instead of using the last 5 days of my sub playing the game, I choose to come and shitpost on the forums. Any thoughts?



I feel your pain, my thought is that pvp is just, dull/boring and you know those 5 days would be spent either blobbed, zerged, waiting 90% of the time or looking 90% of the time instead of getting an actual fight or bored of your ship or fitting and wait those 5 days to train for something "else" or be at the point where you try and think of something to train for.


Just a thought.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#12 - 2012-01-28 04:07:12 UTC
2bhammered wrote:
Sara XIII wrote:
Are you waiting for PvP or looking for PvP?

Looking is never boring.



Looking, always looking, I would even bail on alliance fleets just to look for it instead of having to wait and roll your thumbs for hours. Guess what? looking sucks. Enter system either 2 things will happen, everyone docks or... they blob you, snooze zzz and even if you do get a fight, a fun one which happens once in a blue moon, it is not so "fun".

If you don't think "fun" fights are fun, then you have answered your own question.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#13 - 2012-01-28 04:11:08 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
KrakizBad wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
Sara XIII wrote:
Are you waiting for PvP or looking for PvP?

Looking is never boring.



Looking, always looking, I would even bail on alliance fleets just to look for it instead of having to wait and roll your thumbs for hours. Guess what? looking sucks. Enter system either 2 things will happen, everyone docks or... they blob you, snooze zzz and even if you do get a fight, a fun one which happens once in a blue moon, it is not so "fun".

If you don't think "fun" fights are fun, then you have answered your own question.



Not as fun as they use to be no, that's for sure, frigates is also still the most "fun" ship in pvp even almost a decade after starting to play this game. Makes you think ha? again, just a thought, "fun" was not partof development in recent years or in many parts of the game, not sure. I am also not sure how I answered my own question, I have thoughts but I am not sure as to why I don't have fun even in a good fight.

Do you have any thoughts as to why PVP is boring? Or doyou feel the opposite and why? how long have you played eve? and if you can offer anything else to this thread, please do.
Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#14 - 2012-01-28 04:11:29 UTC
2bhammered wrote:
Sara XIII wrote:
Are you waiting for PvP or looking for PvP?

Looking is never boring.



Looking, always looking, I would even bail on alliance fleets just to look for it instead of having to wait and roll your thumbs for hours. Guess what? looking sucks. Enter system either 2 things will happen, everyone docks or... they blob you, snooze zzz and even if you do get a fight, a fun one which happens once in a blue moon, it is not so "fun".


Never give up.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#15 - 2012-01-28 04:15:04 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Sara XIII wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
Sara XIII wrote:
Are you waiting for PvP or looking for PvP?

Looking is never boring.



Looking, always looking, I would even bail on alliance fleets just to look for it instead of having to wait and roll your thumbs for hours. Guess what? looking sucks. Enter system either 2 things will happen, everyone docks or... they blob you, snooze zzz and even if you do get a fight, a fun one which happens once in a blue moon, it is not so "fun".


Never give up.



I am close to giving up. PVP today and looking for it, use to be a pirate, hasn't been fun for years Cry Not 100% sure as to why, I have theories but nothing definitive. I find being pirate, alliance fighter, fleet, spec ops and even highsec ganking to all be boring.

Only reason I still have the game is because I bought plex for my isks. If not for that I wouldn't have a sub at all.
Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#16 - 2012-01-28 04:23:00 UTC
Have you tried command or played some of the meta-games EVE has to offer?

You sound like you need a new challenge.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#17 - 2012-01-28 04:29:19 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Sara XIII wrote:
Have you tried command or played some of the meta-games EVE has to offer?

You sound like you need a new challenge.



I have done command, leading squads in pvp and fleets,usually roaming ones and sometimes, cringes*, bubble camps. I have also run a corp years ago. Meta games to me are boring and too time consuming, I miss the days when I would log on with my ****** SP noob char and attack and ransom people in my rifter, merlin or tank gate guns and scare the **** out of surprised people in lowsec with a shield extended caracal. But now I find ship, mechanics, graphics and fighting scenarios, damn, everything to just be very very boring. I spend more time on EFT or something than ingame and even if I spent more time ingame it would just be a waste of chasing ghosts or hiding/docked.

Maybe it is just boring because it gets old after years of few things to play with in the sandbox, maybe too many people with too much SP and ISK, maybe we need arena style or battleground pvp? or an eve 2.0 or deletion of capitals and complete change to highsec, lowsec and sovereignity, not sure. But for now, boooring, most people I know feel the same way, especially veterans. Maybe change, scrap the skill system or make the cap a lot smaller.

Again, more thoughts are welcome!

To be honest, I feel there is a lack in game design by CCP in regards to PVP over the years, I think they have done a bad job. Not being mean, it is my honest heartfelt opinion about a company I do hold in a VERY high esteem.
Hainnz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-01-28 04:31:38 UTC
I don't particularly find EVE PVP much fun either (talking ship combat specifically here), because in my experience the fights are usually decided before the first laser is fired.

"Yay/Boo. We won/lost. *yawns*"

I suppose if I could find a way of ensuring "good" fights without them being staged, then PVP might hold my interest more.

I will say that EVE's flavor of PVP makes the other parts of the game more interesting to me. I really enjoy the exploration aspect of these games. The fact that the other players can, and usually will, try to blow me up if I let them makes going out there and doing stuff fun. (Even if the stuff I'm doing isn't particularly interesting itself.)
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#19 - 2012-01-28 04:33:59 UTC
Hainnz wrote:
I don't particularly find EVE PVP much fun either (talking ship combat specifically here), because in my experience the fights are usually decided before the first laser is fired.

"Yay/Boo. We won/lost. *yawns*"

I suppose if I could find a way of ensuring "good" fights without them being staged, then PVP might hold my interest more.

I will say that EVE's flavor of PVP makes the other parts of the game more interesting to me. I really enjoy the exploration aspect of these games. The fact that the other players can, and usually will, try to blow me up if I let them makes going out there and doing stuff fun. (Even if the stuff I'm doing isn't particularly interesting itself.)



I feel the same way, I tried to get into WH's and exploration many times, my problem is I have yet to encounter anything worthwhile exploring for in this game, everything PVE wise or what I can find by exploring is tedious and lame to me.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#20 - 2012-01-28 04:37:44 UTC
Here's how most PVP is done in EVE:

You fit a ship you are fine with losing.

Join your fleet (AKA. Blob).

Warp to battle.

Look at screen and know how the battle will play out before it even starts.

Shooting rocks is more exciting, TBH.

Mr Epeen Cool
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