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Training on multiple characters on the same account
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Rune Scorpio
Fixers Corporation
Pillars of Liberty
#1 - 2012-01-28 02:09:34 UTC
While I understand why it is set up to only train one character at a time it would be nice to be able to pay a little extra to be able to train a second character on the same account. Wouldn't care if it costs the same as a regular sub or a plex to get 30 days of SP onto another character. I run multiple characters on every account and it sucks that if I want to train them all they all have to be on their own accounts, or stop training a character to train another. Cant imagine it wuold be hard to include that feature, and I'm sure it would generate more income from people not willing to spend 40-50 to add a few months to one toon.
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#2 - 2012-01-28 02:20:24 UTC
If that gave me the ability to log into these extra characters, yes please. If it doesn't, I don't see a lot of regular use.

Of course there will be uses. Corp scammers would love it. People using throwaway characters to gank people would probably like it as well. People making characters for the purpose of selling later would like it depending on price. And dedicated corp-people could use it for stuff like "oh, we need more people at mining ops, make a 2-months mining alt and stop training it afterwards". Assuming that their main is something else than mining, of course. I could imagine missionrunners would do the same, just this time with a Noctis-alt.

But for regular playe... oh, wait, I guess I just described most of EVE's user base...

Anyway, personally I wouldn't use it unless I could log into these extra characters, and the price would be the same as or lower than a new account. Since the only thing it'd save me was the hassle of making a new account, and taking that bonus away and I wouldn't care about this proposal.
Rune Scorpio
Fixers Corporation
Pillars of Liberty
#3 - 2012-01-28 02:30:25 UTC
the only use I see it for is for adding a little time to a character thats got alot of SP, and to add the skills I want will take a few months. To get those months will require a new account and $15 to tranfer it over and another 15 to transfer back. Might be 20 cant remember. The alt sellers and corp scammer thing would pretty much cost the same as having it on its own account anyways so I dont see how that would benefit them as much. It's way easier to have a throwaway alt on its own account. A noctis alt? Seriously that takes a grand total of what an hour to make your character able to fly?

I'm not talking about having multiple characters logged in on one account just more than one training.
Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-01-28 18:36:38 UTC
+1

This idea has been suggested many times by myself and others. Yes, many people would pay plex to get a second character training on the same account. CCP has been really dragging their feet on this one. My guess is there would be more plex gobbled up by this simple change than the entirety of the NEX store. Seriously CCP, why has it taken so long to implement such a no brainer idea.
Tidurious
Blatant Alt Corp
#5 - 2012-01-28 19:27:31 UTC
This is why the idea will NOT be implemented by CCP:

Forcing you to have more than one account if you want more than one functional character creates a much larger "playerbase" that CCP can advertise. How many of you have 3 accounts that would then become one? The number of players of this game would shrink dramatically - not in the sense that there are actually less people playing, but there would be less individual accounts. Even if CCP didn't lose any money, they won't sacrifice that statistic that states that we have xxx,xxx number of accounts.

Additionally, I think that MOST people who have more than one toon (although not necessarily all, I'm sure) would want the ability to dual-box at some point, so if this was not included in the arrangement it would be a lot less attractive to some players.
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-01-28 19:57:15 UTC
This is a terrible idea. Whats the point in being able to train two accounts at once if you can only use one at a time? Multi accounting costs the same (based upon the common proposal of a plex per month to keep the extra training) but means you can get far more out of your characters. The only people this would benefit are people who train up toons for sale, and even they wouldnt bother if it costs a plex per month, they would just stick with the multiple accounts they have at the minute.
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-28 23:22:24 UTC
Maybe make it so that you can train multiple characters, but if you are training three characters the second one won't train as quickly as the first one, and the third one won't train as quickly as the first one. A compromise, if you will.

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#8 - 2012-01-28 23:27:33 UTC
Tidurious wrote:
This is why the idea will NOT be implemented by CCP:

Forcing you to have more than one account if you want more than one functional character creates a much larger "playerbase" that CCP can advertise. How many of you have 3 accounts that would then become one? The number of players of this game would shrink dramatically - not in the sense that there are actually less people playing, but there would be less individual accounts. Even if CCP didn't lose any money, they won't sacrifice that statistic that states that we have xxx,xxx number of accounts.

Additionally, I think that MOST people who have more than one toon (although not necessarily all, I'm sure) would want the ability to dual-box at some point, so if this was not included in the arrangement it would be a lot less attractive to some players.


I believe if you check the minutes from the Dec. Summit, they already talked about it. CSM as far as I remember agreed to the proposal or pushed it forward and CCP agreed. Something like that anyway.

Also, there was some talk about a Master account, and merging all accounts into that one. Not sure when this will happen, but it will be appreciated by me anyway.
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Jade Mitch
A Problem with Authority
#9 - 2012-01-29 03:10:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Mitch
Yes, I support this. Nothing says there has to be a restriction on the number of characters training per account, and nothing says we should have to pay extra to train them simultaneously. These are purely arbitrary rules that CCP decided to implement for some reason, which may have had more to do with the technical limitations or optimizations of the old server and less to do with the bottom line.

I only have one account. And all the characters on my account have no apparent relationship in the game world so, why should their individual potentials be limited by their co-existence? Not only that but, I'd like the option of spawning alts in game as companions, once you've trained Leadership level 1. Most RPGs have companions and they usually "level up" with the player character.
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-01-29 07:23:17 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
Also, there was some talk about a Master account, and merging all accounts into that one. Not sure when this will happen, but it will be appreciated by me anyway.


Master Account? You mean that everyone will have access to everyone's characters? If so, it would be both a good thing and a bad thing.

The good part: I would be able to access the old characters from my long lost account from a long time ago. And of course, I wouldn't have to pay for it.
The bad part: Everything else. Now the people at war with me will know EXACTLY what I'm up to. Not to mention that any random person could just log in and screw around with my characters.

But hopefully, a Master Account won't happen.

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Jade Mitch
A Problem with Authority
#11 - 2012-01-29 08:32:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Mitch
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:

Mars Theran wrote:

Also, there was some talk about a Master account, and merging all accounts into that one. Not sure when this will happen, but it will be appreciated by me anyway.

Master Account? You mean that everyone will have access to everyone's characters? If so, it would be both a good thing and a bad thing.

It's a personal master account, where all of your individuals subscription accounts and respective characters can be managed.