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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#21 - 2012-01-25 03:41:11 UTC
This just in:

FCO is bad at diplomacy and warfare and generally everything having to do with any sort of 'international' relations. News at 11.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#22 - 2012-01-25 03:57:19 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
This just in:

FCO is bad at diplomacy and warfare and generally everything having to do with any sort of 'international' relations. News at 11.


Disappointing, Tiberious. You are better than this.

Katrina Oniseki

Simca Develon
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-01-25 03:59:10 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
This just in:

FCO is bad at diplomacy and warfare and generally everything having to do with any sort of 'international' relations. News at 11.


I'll agree judging from what I've seen they do need some work, especially in the combat department, but I would like to at least congratulate them for actually standing up and fighting. Well most of them anyway.

Je suis le commencement de votre fin.

Le diable prend soin de son proper.

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#24 - 2012-01-25 04:49:03 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
This just in:

FCO is bad at diplomacy and warfare and generally everything having to do with any sort of 'international' relations. News at 11.


Disappointing, Tiberious. You are better than this.


I have my reasons.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#25 - 2012-01-25 05:11:28 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Alain Octirant wrote:

As I am an expert at flying the Velator-class frigate, Madame, I believe that it is my combat skills that these fanatics need fear.


Wait... Velator?


Don't knock them, I saw one nutjob take on a Dreadnaught fleet in Goinard one time in one.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Boma Airaken
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-01-25 08:42:50 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
This just in:

FCO is bad at diplomacy and warfare and generally everything having to do with any sort of 'international' relations. News at 11.


While I was trying to do my best to avoid this thread, this caught me WAY off guard.

How dare YOU of all people barge in here and insult these enemy combatants of mine, who fight with honor, and execute their duty fearlessly?

You redefine inadequacy in all of the above to the point of hilarity. This horse is not yours to ride you pompous little ****.
Bastian Valoron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-01-25 18:08:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Bastian Valoron
Following Professor Octirant's initiative, Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative set up a general vote regarding the militia membership of Federal Consensus Outreach. The ballot boxes opened 01.17.114YC and the voting lasted for six days.

The options were
"Federal Consensus Outreach should join the Gallente Militia"
"Federal Consensus Outreach should not join the Gallente Militia"
The order of the options was decided by tossing an isklet, to avoid bias.

According to the results, 90.1% of the voters are in support of FCO's membership in the militia and 9.9% are against it. The voter turnout was around 27% which is roughly on the average level in the Federal scale.

The influence of FCO's current conflict with the Equilibrium of Mankind loyalists on the outcome is unknown although there are speculations that the intention of the war declaration was to manipulate the results.

As the chairman, I must express my gratitude for all those who voted and expressed their opinion. The people have spoken, now it is time to act. Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative will continue to promote the ideals of peace, freedom and happiness with the guidance of public opinion as our ultimate commander and on this journey, we shall now lend our support to the FNPC's proposition.
Kat Robspierre
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-01-26 16:30:50 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
This just in:

FCO is bad at diplomacy and warfare and generally everything having to do with any sort of 'international' relations. News at 11.


I write this message with conflicted mind and wounded heart...

Reclamation Technologies was and continues to be proud to be a founding member of FCO. However, given the reckless statements made regarding military policies, and the premature announcements of voting results of an individual corporation that may or may not represent the results of the FCO alliance...

Well, I am forced to admit that M. Thessalonia may have a point.

As Production Chief and Business Development Lead, I am admittedly biased - but I fail to see how bullets can achieve "peace, freedom and happiness", as M. Valoron posits. Rather than view others as combatants and attempt to deliver them happiness via the barrel of a gun, we at RECLT view all peoples not as combatants, but as customers to whom we have yet to sell goods.

By demonstrating the superiority of the Federation - our ability to prosper together, rather than fail individually - we can best help other societies see the value our way of life brings.

By taking up arms and using their methods to conduct diplomacy, we only demonstrate how tenuous our grip on our core values truly is. If in order to survive we must abandon ourselves, do we really deserve to survive?

K. Robspierre
Production Chief, RECLT

http://chasingISK.blogspot.com

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#29 - 2012-01-26 17:00:30 UTC
Kat Robspierre wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
This just in:

FCO is bad at diplomacy and warfare and generally everything having to do with any sort of 'international' relations. News at 11.


I write this message with conflicted mind and wounded heart...

Reclamation Technologies was and continues to be proud to be a founding member of FCO. However, given the reckless statements made regarding military policies, and the premature announcements of voting results of an individual corporation that may or may not represent the results of the FCO alliance...

Well, I am forced to admit that M. Thessalonia may have a point.

As Production Chief and Business Development Lead, I am admittedly biased - but I fail to see how bullets can achieve "peace, freedom and happiness", as M. Valoron posits. Rather than view others as combatants and attempt to deliver them happiness via the barrel of a gun, we at RECLT view all peoples not as combatants, but as customers to whom we have yet to sell goods.

By demonstrating the superiority of the Federation - our ability to prosper together, rather than fail individually - we can best help other societies see the value our way of life brings.

By taking up arms and using their methods to conduct diplomacy, we only demonstrate how tenuous our grip on our core values truly is. If in order to survive we must abandon ourselves, do we really deserve to survive?

K. Robspierre
Production Chief, RECLT


Make this guy your public face, and you will be going places.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#30 - 2012-01-26 17:06:23 UTC
Kat Robspierre wrote:

I write this message with conflicted mind and wounded heart...

Reclamation Technologies was and continues to be proud to be a founding member of FCO. However, given the reckless statements made regarding military policies, and the premature announcements of voting results of an individual corporation that may or may not represent the results of the FCO alliance...

Well, I am forced to admit that M. Thessalonia may have a point.

As Production Chief and Business Development Lead, I am admittedly biased - but I fail to see how bullets can achieve "peace, freedom and happiness", as M. Valoron posits. Rather than view others as combatants and attempt to deliver them happiness via the barrel of a gun, we at RECLT view all peoples not as combatants, but as customers to whom we have yet to sell goods.

By demonstrating the superiority of the Federation - our ability to prosper together, rather than fail individually - we can best help other societies see the value our way of life brings.

By taking up arms and using their methods to conduct diplomacy, we only demonstrate how tenuous our grip on our core values truly is. If in order to survive we must abandon ourselves, do we really deserve to survive?

K. Robspierre
Production Chief, RECLT


I knew there was a reason I liked you.

Katrina Oniseki

Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
#31 - 2012-01-26 19:43:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Koronakesh
For the curious parties, an update.

The first day of war was pleasantly timed on the morning of the 24th, as it was what seemed to be the peak active times of both involved forces. As soon as the war became active, a force consisting of six members of the Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative [GIPA] was tracked en route from their form-up point to the system I was in, two jumps away, and all Seekers present in their capsules were called to rally in Ardallabier. As this was proceeding, the GIPA fleet postured and maneuvered around the system under constant watch until all pilots had been assembled.

With the GIPA fleet consisting of two drakes, one brutix, two thoraxes and one vexor, the outnumbered Seekers moved in with an all-Matari composition of three hurricanes and a stiletto. By this time, the GIPA group had been observed setting up their camp on the Lirsautton gate, and our group was taken directly into them. By the time my own hurricane fell, we had dismantled two-thirds of the GIPA fleet with withering autocannon fire, and the remaining drakes were dispatched without difficulty by Boma and Cer'ana.

However, to their credit, GIPA did not let this six-to-one execution stand on its own, and returned within the hour with a larger force of seven pilots. Adding a blackbird to their group of brutix, drake, thorax, caracal and vexors, they set their camp up outside the station the Seekers had brought our spoils to from the last fight. Having a replacement vessel of my own on hand, we once again stood with three hurricanes and a stiletto and engaged. This time Boma was taken apart first of us, but not before Atormeleon's brutix went down. With myself and Cer'ana incinerating the cruisers in close proximity at a brisk pace, Crucifire ran down and tackled "that randomguy Uitoh" in his blackbird, who immediately focused on jamming her and then warped off the field. With only Bastian's drake and the Caracal of "general-pimp-daddy Uitoh", Cer'ana assured she could handle Bastian's drake alone and I subsequently ran down and executed Uitoh's Caracal who had attempted to make range. The blackbird returned in time to see both of his fellow GIPA members explode, and then left the field himself. With the results of this engagement matching that of the previous, six-to-one in casaulties, no further conflict was had that night.

The 25th was a quiet day by comparison, and saw no engagements beyond the hunting down of captinsummit's Hyperion and its ubsequent destruction, followed by execution of his capsule. captinsummit has since resigned his GIPA membership. Seeker observers continue tracking movements of FCO pilots through the day, and identified an alternate basing location of their operations.

With the information of the 25th being analyzed, battles continued to be pursued the following day. Crucifire identified a concentration of Reclamation Technologies [RECLT] and GIPA pilots in Ney, and baited with her Vengeance an engagement with Uitoh's vexor. After reciprocating aggression with her, he was promptly destroyed by my hurricane's appearance. James Syagrius also appeared from the station in a Daredevil in an attempt to assist, though he perhaps should've finished fitting it instead of being so hasty... He was immediately destroyed and his capsule execution conducted. Notably, this has also been the only sighting of a RECLT combat vessel, and several of their pilots have abandoned official corporate membership, presumably so they can continue ice harvesting operations. They may well find CONCORD to be insufficient protection from a sudden death.

Later on that day, after completing reconnaissance of the alternate GIPA basing system, a Seeker battlegroup of two hurricanes and stiletto pursued a force of four GIPA pilots to the Ishukone station of Atlulle. After some time of Crucifire maneuvering and finally engaging, her stiletto was quickly lost due to the scram/web configuration of knytemare grathmourn's ares rendering her vulnerable to the drones of Chonuss' Myrmidon, who was himself then relieved of his ship, thus kicking off what would become a twenty minute engagement. Knytemare quickly switched from an Ares into a thorax as Bastian came out in a Drake while Chonuss was under fire.

As this was happening, Atormeleon who had been observed one jump over made haste to his comrades and appeared in a Brutix, which was also brought down after Knytemare's Thorax. By this time, the GIPA pilots had continued reshipping and were now in Dominixes, and as my own Hurricane's low structure alarms sounded with 3 Dominixes and a Drake firing on it, Cer'ana and myself pulled from their close vicinity and quit the field to repair. A brief discussion was had between myself and Cer'ana about the situation, and we quickly concluded the only thing to do was go back in for more. With the GIPA pilots docking as we landed on the field, Knytemare came back out in his Dominix after some brief cajoling. Our pair of hurricanes circled in as predatory, interstellar sharks and engaged, fully knowing what would come out to shoot back at us. Despite the remote assistance from another Dominix, he went down and we then made for Bastian's Drake, as he was pulling range and would not benefit from the remote armor repairs of the Dominixes. As Bastian fell, Knytemare again came out in a Thorax and my own hurricane fell under the incoming fire of the hostile forces. Cer'ana remained on the field long enough to retrieve the modules and relics from my vessel, as well as the still-intact corpse of James Syagrius obtained earlier.

With a five-to-two ratio after the fight, this has been GIPA's best showing , and they managed to hold the field for the first time so far. We Seekers anxiously look forward to continuing engagements of this level.

"For whosoever shall lay his life down for his Lord, he shall be taken into the arms of God, and forever consecrated shall he be."

SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin

Bastian Valoron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-01-27 00:37:51 UTC
Kat Robspierre wrote:
Reclamation Technologies was and continues to be proud to be a founding member of FCO. However, given the reckless statements made regarding military policies, and the premature announcements of voting results of an individual corporation that may or may not represent the results of the FCO alliance...

Freedom of opinion and expression are among the most basic rights that every human being should enjoy. Like M Robspierre says, Professor Octirant's ideas concerning military policies, or the results of G.I.P.A.'s internal vote do not represent the FCO alliance. FCO has its own decision making procedures.

It is clear that the official positions of the alliance must be defined through a democratic process and announced as such using the appropriate channels. Over the course of history, this way of making decisions has proven to be the only one which puts the power in people's hands and the only way which we can truly trust.

Kat Robspierre wrote:
As Production Chief and Business Development Lead, I am admittedly biased - but I fail to see how bullets can achieve "peace, freedom and happiness", as M. Valoron posits. Rather than view others as combatants and attempt to deliver them happiness via the barrel of a gun, we at RECLT view all peoples not as combatants, but as customers to whom we have yet to sell goods.

If no one who places his or her trust in peace, freedom and happiness defends him- or herself, these ideals will fall into oblivion as there will be no one left to support them in the end.

Federation is and has been under attack by enemies of our ideals and way of life for long. To say that the efforts of Federation's troops have not achieved anything is a strong and in my opinion false statement. Although the Empyrean War has not made significant advances in terms of sovereignty, our forces have never given up but shown great bravery and courage by protecting our core systems.

I also wish to take this opportunity to congratulate all the industrialists who have found a profitable market which has no connection to the ongoing war. It said to be a difficult task these days.

Kat Robspierre wrote:
By demonstrating the superiority of the Federation - our ability to prosper together, rather than fail individually - we can best help other societies see the value our way of life brings.

By taking up arms and using their methods to conduct diplomacy, we only demonstrate how tenuous our grip on our core values truly is. If in order to survive we must abandon ourselves, do we really deserve to survive?

It is a good question, whether discussion, freedom of opinion and defense of one's ideals really mean abandoning oneself? One can also ask, which one takes the priority - values and ideals or personal financial gain? If we are willing to sell our identity, our character and our very essence for a few isk, do we really deserve to say we stand for anything in this world?
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-01-27 03:41:40 UTC
I advise GIPA to make use of the many, many publicly available capsuleer forums regarding basic combat fittings for each class of vessel they are using.

That, or sue for peace and get it over with. What?

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Shu Jia
Mineski Infinity
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2012-01-27 04:18:15 UTC
Good day to you Luc Saldissot.

You have a fine vision. Im looking forward for your establishment. The word economy establishment looks intresting to me.
Loreael
Mariillion
#35 - 2012-01-27 07:13:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Loreael
As a representative of a number of former RECLT industrialists (and a former director of RECLT), i would like to say a few words.

We joined Reclamation technologies due to the vision, professionalism, and humanitarianism of our CEO, James Syagrius. We made the assumption that the alliance that RECLT was a part of would exhibit similar intelligence and values.

Unfortunately we were wrong.

Mr. Octirant and Mr. Valoron have exhibited significant errors in judgement, regrettably public, which involved their alliance members without consultation. Worse yet, they displayed public contempt and disrespect for worthwhile foes.

We may be simple industrialists, but we have great respect for those who are skilled in battle, whether they are allied with us or hunting us to the corners of known space.

Besides his unquestionable skill in battle, Koronakesh has shown nothing but respect to his foes, something which is lacking from my (former) alliance.

While Koronakesh may have inferred that our exit from RECLT was to evade this war, it was in fact a total and final statement of our total disgust in the leadership of the other member corporations of our (former) alliance.

If Kat and James (forgive the familiarity), cornerstones of RECLT, permanently leave this misguided alliance, our group of industrialists will gladly return and pursue the values that we hold dearly.

We will not however, stand for the continued disrespect that has been displayed by Mr. Octirant and Mr. Valoron, both for their own alliance members and honourable foes.

Until then, we will endeavour to find a home that displays even a fraction of the leadership and honour that our former CEO James Syagrius showed.

Regards,

Lor

One last note: Koronakesh and his associates were given ample opportunity to take down myself and my associates during the pursuit of our industrial endeavours after our departure. They chose not to.
Bastian Valoron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-01-27 19:14:10 UTC
Loreael wrote:
Worse yet, they displayed public contempt and disrespect for worthwhile foes.

First of all, I'd like to point out that I have not yet publicly commented the war in any fashion. Any contempt or praise that may have crossed my mind has been expressed using restricted communication channels.

However, since this question was now raised, I would like mention that although I do not support the doctrines of our enemy, I can admit that the fight has been fierce and conducted in professional manner. Additionally, the battle report by monsieur Koronakesh was quite accurate, informative and even objective.

Secondly, it is clear that during tough times, tough measures are needed. I wish there was always a solution that pleases everyone but in New Eden things don't tend to work that way. Differences of opinion are an inevitable part of life in the cluster and discussion is a good way to deal with them. I do not want to criticize the point of view represented by RECLT members, I understand very well there they are coming from. Instead, I hope their mining efforts will continue to benefit the Federation and make a difference now and in the future.
Bastian Valoron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-01-29 04:55:41 UTC
01.29.114YC - a meeting of the Executive Council of Federal Consensus Outreach was held on Crux Agora.

The participants were Msr. Luc Saldissot, Administrator James Syagrius, accompanied by Msr. Kat Robspierre, Chairman Bastian Valoron, Professor Alain Octirant.

Bastian Valoron was elected as the secretary of the meeting.

The bulk of the Council's discussion focused on the ongoing hostilities with the Seekers of a Silent Paradise. Disagreement on this topic was impassioned. Prof. Octirant closed his communication channels after a particularly heated exchange, saying as he left "I believe in democracy, Msr. Syagrius, and in the rights of a Federal citizen."

The meeting adjourned shortly thereafter.
Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
#38 - 2012-01-29 05:54:29 UTC
It would be more accurate to say M. Octirant believed in democracy.

Whatever he may have believed, he has gone to meet his judgement. I would like to award Crucifire the Misericorde in recognition for her contributions to the removal of this stain, and I hope for the sake of the next head of the FNP that he shows a bit more tact, both in whom he insults, and with whom he traffics. Sometimes the most dangerous enemies are the people closest to you, as M. Octirant discovered in his last moments.

SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#39 - 2012-01-29 06:09:19 UTC
Koronakesh wrote:
It would be more accurate to say M. Octirant believed in democracy.

Whatever he may have believed, he has gone to meet his judgement. I would like to award Crucifire the Misericorde in recognition for her contributions to the removal of this stain, and I hope for the sake of the next head of the FNP that he shows a bit more tact, both in whom he insults, and with whom he traffics. Sometimes the most dangerous enemies are the people closest to you, as M. Octirant discovered in his last moments.


Your words carry an unsettling finality. Could you care to explain what you mean by "last moments" and "removal"?

Katrina Oniseki

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-01-29 08:18:03 UTC
Ah, new shooting dummies to train on.
How cute!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.