Intergalactic Summit

I have waited to reply to this thread until I could process some observations from our recent rescue work. Hatred, when it exists, is a dominant emotion and tends to eclipse both other emotions and the capacity for reason. Hatred is difficult to disguise and quickly makes itself known. I think the perspective of recently rescued slaves would be a good place to look to discover if hatred is rife among the Matari.

I have not seen it so. We have rescued now hundreds of former slaves. Hatred is not the emotion that permeates, even after the trauma of crisis and the joy of rescue have faded. What emotion dominates, then? Grief! When these former captives begin to ponder the wonder of freedom, they inevitably feel the losses they have endured in the past. Grief predominates even anger. By that, I mean that anger is only a part of the early stages of grief. Part of our matriculation program is to provide in depth counseling to grieving people.

The Elders in our centers have been amazing. They have led the communities to focus on the development of positive energies toward establishing a new life. Hatred is not a part of that.

Hatred exists in every culture, free or enslaved, where men and women exist in a state of "spiritual enslavement." The cure for hatred is Divine Redemption by the One who is our creator.

I am not shocked, I fully expect and agree with such slavers been punished.

However, sister Farel suggested the Republic also takes away the freedom of people. Your response suggested that was allright, as long as the people in question were convicted of a crime. I'm trying to point out that the Amarr Empire has a wide selection of criminal acts available. Acts that could lead to one's freedom taken away.

Slaves in the Empire don't have their 'freedom taken away' in spite of the law, but because of the law. They are criminals just like slave raiders in the Republic are.

Race has nothing to do with being a criminal. I suggested doing at least some basic research on Amarr culture before condemning it.

I'm not ignoring it, I'm well aware that the generational aspect of slavery is one of the major differences between say, regular imprisonement and slavery.

On the other hand, as I've understood cultures that practice imprisonement take the children away from their imprisoned parents to have them raised by outsiders chosen by their government. I'm sure you don't want to suggest that Amarr Empire makes it mandatory for slave children to be taken away from their parents.

I prefer my slaves to raise their own children if they are able to do so responsibly. I think it teaches the parents valuable life lessons, and also provides them with joy and humility.

Generational slavery must and will come to an end, until then regulations must be introduced. This is unlikely however, and more hatred will be aimed at the empire which I have made my home

Rek, my friend, I believe Lord Merdaneth is referring to the present policies for legal enslavement, not those of the past, when a random priest could shout "Deus Vult!" and find an armada fully prepped within the hour. Needless to say, the Empire's slavery laws have changed quite a bit since Athra's reign.

Rest assured that the papers of each slave need to be in proper order, and everything transaction concerning slaves is report to the proper authorities and filed.

The only illegally captured slaves that can enter the Empire legally are those that are sold to Amarr slave traders by non-citizens. If a Caldari trader sells slaves to an Amarr, obviously that Caldari is not held to the Amarr registration and trade laws. Similarly, the buyer doesn't need to concern itself If the trade is legal by Caldari law is, that is the responsibility of the seller.

That would be on obvious subversion of justice. Sadly, not one that is traceable on the slave's papers. The perpetrators of course will be punished by God, but I don't believe you or the illegally captured slaves will find much comfort in that.

I am not sure to whom you were adressing, but in doubt, I never did such a thing.

In any case, Mr Jaiga seems now to put all the slaves in the same basket and issuing blanket statements on slavery in general, which I pointed out.

If I qualified your first message of blanket statement, it was for the very reason that you compared Nation slavery with Cartel slavery, and with Amarr slavery, then calling them the same for the only reason that they share the same term and they "spoil people out of their freedom".

It is the exact same thing that comparing water to metal for the only reason that both can boil given a certain temperature. And this is the very problem of broad and general terms as slavery. People have to be more accurate when using the word, unless they want of course be the source of cascading misunderstandings and offended egos.

They committed the crime of turning away from God's path.

But let us remember that Matar was beset by a natural disaster at the time, and without the Amarrian intervention many of the population may not have survived.