EVE General Discussion

the botom line is is truth if someone is not willing to ever get in PVP nothing we can do.

You can molest some ppl as much you want they are pasiff they wont say think (btw most of those are serial killers at the and) mayby we shuld not fck whith bears after all.

CCP are you shore they can't get my personal infos from youre web sites ?

I am not denying that they are major aspects of the game, however combat (when will people ever learn that everything you do involves competing against other players?) is the main focus of the game. If I told my friends "come play eve so we can carry stuff around and shoot rocks" they would probably think the game is dull and boring.

The reason why there is such a large amount of people trying to avoid combat completely is because, despite the focus of the game, players are introduced into a nice cuddly world where the only baddies are NPCs in missions and if anyone dare lay a finger on you CONCORD will be up their butts.

I'm not blaming the "carebears" for their play-style. After all no sane person would join a game advertised and praised for it's combat and expect to go mining. I simply feel that high security is a bit too secure. This causes people, who are already safe to never yearn to try and do dangerous things. That whole "born in the vault, die in the vault" concept in Fallout 3.

I'm fine with people playing however they want, if you want to spend all day shooting at rocks when you can be shooting at people be my guest, in fact I admire people who play how they want.

However people like you are being quite hypocritical, your trying to stop those of us that want combat, from engaging in combat at the expense of your safety, yet if you look at the history of EVE, you will see that combat has been nerfed in favor of safety time and time again.



What is the point of seeing 44,000 users logged in at a time if you are keeping your contact with them at the absolute minimum? If you don't engage in the Massive Multi-PLAYER aspect of the game then why not fill the server up with NPCs?

And yes, it is clear that the introduction of hi-sec did indeed help the game. Like I said, myself and many others out there rely on Hi-Sec to make some cash. However, if Hisec only accounts for 1/4 to 1/3rd (don't know the exact numbers) of the games systems it is very clear that EVE is still meant to be combat focused.

Part of the problem here is that the game is meant to be a multi player experience, hence the MM part of MMORPG. This means that players aren't expected to live in their own little shells then wonder why something happened to them, like losing sp when they don't know about having to upgrade their clones.

The idea of the game is that you interact with others, join a corp or make one with some people you met during that first week of trial. I hooked up with another player in my first few days, he just sent me a fleet invite, I accepted and we went from there. We learned together and then joined a corp with far more experienced players who showed us the ropes, as I am with some new players now.

If this sort of things is happening it is likely that these players are either never trying to find out more about the game on their own or don't see the value of being a bit more social beyond the NPC corp they started in and learning from players who understand the game a fair bit more. Some would really enjoy opening the door and being part of a more active group, I'm sure, but some just want to turtle up and do their own thing each time they log in. Those players can't be helped it would seem, but then they complain when their understanding of the game is insufficient to let them avoid or survive the harsher aspects when they come knocking.

You may have just earned yourself another vote, Issler. I'd like to see more about your campaign plans and what you'll bring to the CSM.

Sure. I'm almost of the opinion that CCP should either select potential CSM candidates itself, (giving those people the ability to reject or accept, and then run for CSM if they choose), or moderate the candidate process in one way or another.

Moderation could involve CCP restricting applicants to a certain number per interest group; and involve pre-election candidate selection for each interest group. Initial applications for candidacy would go through CCP through a new feature in EVE gate, (apply for CSM selection), after which CCP would interview all candidates and begin a polling process.

Once all interest groups had achieved minimum representation through this process, the selected candidates could begin their campaigns as the best possible candidates for their interest group for CSM. Nullsec interest groups wouldn't run against Highsec interest groups for example.

Candidate selection could also require a vetran status of sorts, where CCP would verify account details to make sure this wasn't a member of a counter interest group looking to leverage seats for his constituents. This would all be done in the pre-selection process.

So we need wait till the people create there thread that they want to be in CSM in the somehow choose the most reasonable(one or two) of them to represent the MAJORITY of the players.

posting in one more thread "highseccers don't want to 0.0.... "

/c

Tippia, think about it .....

Even if they are not their mains, the "actual" characters are still High sec toons.

As such it still means the appropriation of interest in those regions is higher irrespective of where their main loyalties might lie.

And I find it very interesting the ongoing importance afforded to "regional" discrimination. Irrespective of the brokerage of power and how it is used and/or wether appropriate represetation is afforded for all regional interests. Admittedly this is one of the issues that the view some corrupt members of the CSM all are from a certain region. But please don't let that cloud the possibility that an objective person from the same region wouldn't be of value to the CSM. Equally it's a purely discrimating idea for null seccers to have this view about high sec.

Even as a high sec player, if a sufficiently objective and valued candidate appeared from any region, even Jove space!, I would vote for them on their credentials and ideas, not neccesarily just on their geography. Its more an "standpoint" issue for me, and I question how much the ongoing debate on regional bias for these things is actually helping the EvE community. All it seems to be doing is fueling animosity between the groups. Maybe that is a naive statement, but I question the validity of promoting regional bias.

Right at this moment, 3 of my 6 "toons" are in hi-sec systems, 1 is in lo-sec, while the other two are in Venal. Am I a "high sec player"?

If I were a CSM, would you say that I was unable to represent hi-sec players? Or would I be unable to represent 0.0 players?

I have 3 industry alts, a backup mission slave and a pvp alt in empire and me in 0.0

that 80% number that gets batted about might not be a number to trust.