Assembly Hall

The proposal is to add new PvE group content to EvE in the form of Deep Space sites. (This proposal was initially on the original forums for some time and was received well.)

1. Sites would spawn 100AU or more from the center of the system.
2. Sites would be very difficult requiring several players to complete.
3. Sites would NOT be able to be bookmarked as to prevent the creation of "deep safe" bookmarks. (This should not be an issue since a group would be required to complete them anyway.)
4. Sites should be rare or at least less frequent than normal sites.

"IF" these sites were to be introduced to WH space then the difficulty should scale and escalations should be much, much more difficult. Perhaps spawning 8 or more BS's per capital. The risk involved should be great enough that losing a capital or tengu is rather high with a typical fleet.

Hmmm...deep space ice belts anyone? Nevermind...

Why not?

And it is perfectly fine here.

Not sure why they need to be deep space. Just to make them harder to find?

But multi-player exploration sites sound good. They do not even need to be particularly hard. Consider a site about has hard as a L4 mission, but protected by an acceleration gate that only lets T1 frigates through.

The whole idea is that when scanning for sites, there is a metric **** ton of space that is just that...space. All sites are located within a relatively close distance to a planet and are easy as hell to find. I want it to be that random site out in the middle of nowhere that you would only find if you thought to actually scan the areas you wouldn't normally bother scanning.

wait wait wait

you're telling me there is space in space?

"if someone says something I don't like, they are a troll"

ps, you just replied to a troll with a troll

you're not very bright are you?

Really there are some good thoughts here, but I think that this proposal has a few too many moving parts. Let me see if I can break it down a bit.

I do not like the fact that sites spawn within 4 AU of planets. I haven't seen an explanation for that isn't based off of some arbitrary decision that CCP doesn't want too deep safe spots. I would like to see ALL sites that spawn within a system based off of a range restriction centered on the star. 100 AU might be a bit big, but whatever it is it should be bigger than it is now and have nothing to do with planets.

Your proposal that the sites be harder is a completely different issue from where the plexes spawn. I don't know why sites farther away from planets would be harder to do, or why they'd be harder to scan down. If you just advocated for a few harder sites to be thrown into the randomizer, I'm with you. However, I don't see why these two concepts are inherently linked.

I'm against the proposed restriction on bookmarking. I'd rather not have the sites at all than to swallow "You can't make bookmarks here becasueee... uhh... the... subspace... influx... interference..." or some other nonsense. If you can go there, you should be able to bookmark it.

You say that these sites should be rare, but I think that it would be better if this scheme was the norm, and all sites would spawn all over a system, not just around planets.

So, I guess this all boils down to a not supported vote. I would happily be with you if you just proposed that all anomolies spawn based off of the range to the sun, and not the planets. I'd also be happy with the idea that every now and then there should be a much harder or easier site than you'd expect in a given system. But, these ideas linked don't work for me.

this is so you don't get ninja looted isn't it?

I see no added value in something like this.

And yes, this would result in the creation of deep space bookmarks. If I found a site like this, I could run it with a fleet and leave behind a disposable alt in a rookie ship to log out in space. Come back the next day, log the alt in and make a bookmark in space now that the site has despawned.

I haven't really been through the whole deep safe discussion before. Why is that a bad thing? I can understand that having a spot that is too far outside of a system is nearly unprobable, but surely something within combat scanner probe range would be fine, right? What is the issue with spots that aren't around planets?