Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Is there something i'm missing?

Because i just learned that you can use large shield boosters on a battlecruiser even though the Large Shield Booster tech 2 repairs shield more effectively then the Armor Repairer tech 2 does with armor.

The math is quite simple but revealing:

Large shield booster tech 2: "Repairs" 240 shield hp each 4 seconds. 240/40 = 60 hp per second

Large Armor repairer tech 2: Repairs 800 armor hp each 15 second. 800/15 = 53.333.... hp per second

Already here, we can see a slight advantage for shield tank. The shield one requires far less fitting ressources then the armor one, but repairs hp a bit more efficiently. Now let's compare capacitor requirement:

Large shield booster tech 2: Requires 160 cap each 4 second. 160/4 = 40 cap needed per sec.

Large armor repairer tech 2: Requires 400 cap each 15 second. 400/15 = 26.666... cap needed per sec.

On capacitor, we can conclude that the armor has the advantage. But again, that does'nt really matter since we can't fit the large armor repairer tech 2 on an armor focused battlecruiser like we can with the large shield booster tech 2 on a shield focused battlecruiser like the drake.

It also explains why the drake's tank is so overpowered since it is shield focused. The cap drawback is'nt enough in a cap stable PvE fit.

Anyway, i know i am missing of lot of other factors that could change the balance, so please, if you have any more thing to add on this, do it.

More data i found both Myrmidon and Drake have the same cap recharge rate (2812.5 max capacity / 750 second recharge time = 3.75 gj per second) and they both have 6 slots for their tank (drake has 6 mids and myrm, 6 lows worth noting, myrmidon has 1 more mid slots than the drake with low slots.)

Shield tanks sacrifice utility slots for better tank.
Armor tanks sacrifice speed and weapon mods for tank.

Active Shield tanks are excellent at "burst" tanking.
Active Armor tanks are excellent at conserving cap.

Shields can regenerate overtime.
Armor can load up on large amounts of raw HP.

Shields make a ship appear bigger on sensors.
Armor makes a ship significantly slower.

Shields have an active repper boosting implant set.
Armor has a passive raw HP boosting implant set.


... the list goes on. Shields and armor are not supposed to be the same and there will be disparities between the two in many, many areas.

Between the two systems, there are "slight" things here or there that might need tweaking. Overall they are fairly balanced.

Also... "theorycrafting" and questions pertaining to ships, mods, weapons, and system mechanics are better suited for the Ships and Modules section... not for F&I.

I am still annoyed that Armor Repairers (even the tiny ones) consume so much capacitor. One Armor Repairer completely destroyed my Cap Stability of my Punisher Fit (and I need it because without it my armor gets ripped up in seconds), so I had to sink too much money into Cap Recharging rigs and modules.

Maybe a powered down Armor Repairer for frigates that is nowhere near as effective, but way more effecient. Lower Cap Usage, Lower Fitting Requirements, Longer Duration (both a good thing and a bad thing), Lower Repair Amount.

You utter utter n00b.