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Tactical Shield Manipulation - how does it work?
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Strigonde Kite
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-01-26 19:50:29 UTC
"With 0% chance at level 5"... Can anyone explain it to me? Does my shield become impenetrable?
Kha'Vorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-01-26 20:32:51 UTC
Strigonde Kite wrote:
"With 0% chance at level 5"... Can anyone explain it to me? Does my shield become impenetrable?


No it does not. As your shields run down, damage can bleed through to armour. This skill cuts down that bleed through
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#3 - 2012-01-26 20:50:41 UTC
You can notice it on some NPCs or big structures you shoot. When you get below 50% shields, some portion of the damage you do to it gots through the shield into armor. The amount that goes through is reduced by 20% for each level of Tactical Shield Manipulation the target has trained.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#4 - 2012-01-26 20:50:42 UTC
now, there is contention whether taking the skill to L5 is worth it at all, because something about the bleed-through actually helping you tank a little bit.

Personally I hull tank, so shield and armour are both unnecessary red bars in my hud [:D]

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2012-01-27 01:01:22 UTC
Level 0: Below 25% shield there is a small chance to bleed damage to armor.
Level 1: Below 20% shield there is a small chance to bleed damage to armor.
Level 2: Below 15% shield there is a small chance to bleed damage to armor.
Level 3: Below 10% shield there is a small chance to bleed damage to armor.
Level 4: Below 5% shield there is a small chance to bleed damage to armor.
Level 5: You will never bleed damage to armor.

Level 4 is required by tech 2 hardeners. There is no real reason to go past level 4 for most people. The skill at 5 is useful to a very small minority.

It has been shown that the skill is detrimental, particularly to armor tanks, as it forces the shield to absorb damage which keeps it lower, and lower shield below 25% recharges progressively slower the lower it goes.

Bottom line: train it to level 4 and forget it.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2012-01-27 01:09:59 UTC
What Tau said. Get 4 for T2 hardeners, but beyond that it'll hurt you more than it helps you. Besides, in most ships the time between 5% shield and 0% shield is so infinitesimally small that you really won't notice the difference (and it's certainly not worth 2-3w of training for lvl 5).