Market Discussions

This isn't the first post related to plex prices, nor dare I say will it be the last rather than the usual blah blah about cashing in I would like to address the potential game breaking issue attached to the increasing plex forecast.

Imagine the very possible 1bill per plex scenario where the estimated two thirds of players whom pay by plex can no longer afford plexes from their monthly grin, now add the fact that for £22:00you can buy your self 2 billion isk from an etc miners think why bother mining, inflation driven by too few subscribers producing base matierials and a new breed of buy your self rich players mean that Joe shmoe who buys eve for the first time quits after a week because he can buy his first t1 frigit....

End result mass loss of player base mass inflation and no new influx of fresh players.....

Possible fix CCP cap plex prices before its to late...

Still you can pay for 2 plexes and get yourself a bill from your paper round if one were so inclined....

You really answered your own question right there. When the PLEX prices start getting to the point that pilots can no longer afford them, demand will start to decrease and the price rise will stall.

No you conveyed your point fine. It is fairly obvious that the vast number of plex purchasers buy them for game time. Considering they are only really good for three things.

1. Game time
2. Aurum
3. Market investment



This is where you miss the point. PLEX is a commidity that operates within the normal parameters. When introduced they create isk, the same isk created by incursions, missions, etc. This isk is used to fund the economy (buying ships mods etc).

Like everything else in EVE it will balance with the market. If PLEX hits a billion it will be because enough players can still afford it at those prices. Otherwise demand will drop. Some players may unsub. Some players may drop from multiple accounts to fewer. Some players will simply pay with $$$ in the short term hoping to ride out the PLEX price increase.

When that starts happening PLEX demand will drop. Eventually the market will drop as well. Players that unsubbed will bring back those accounts and the great EVE market circle of life will continue.

This is a non-sequitur. The nature of a PLEX that you stated doesn't make sense as a reason your proposed cap on PLEX prices. It doesn't matter what a good does or does not do, the fact is that it provides a perceived benefit to players who choose to buy it, so as long as they're willing to pay what others are selling it for, there's value created in the process for both parties. A monocle doesn't build anything, doesn't help you fight better either ( unless you count on making your opponents lul at your wasted money ), but that isn't a reason for putting a cap on the price of monocles now is it?

I'm a new player to the game who chose to specialize in mining because of the nice option to semi-afk while getting some work done, and in all honesty I don't see what all the fuss is about high PLEX prices. Just by speccing in mining, supposedly one of the worst paying professions there is in EVE, I'm currently making more than enough for my own PLEX needs as well as providing for another friend new to the game. I didn't choose to PLEX because I can't pay for it IRL, I chose it because it sounded like one heck of an interesting challenge earning money by playing smart in-game to continue your pilot career. That's part of what drew me into EVE in the first place - And to be honest, I think PLEX prices are still undervalued at the moment.

I think that what a unique game like EVE needs is not to make itself more accessible to more subscribers - If they're not willing to pay a monthly subscription or learn to play smart financially in-game, then too bad and so long. Rather, what the game needs is to ensure that it keeps with the winning formula it's been using of having a harsh, tough universe that - In general - attracts a more intelligent, long-term planning type of demographic. There's little value in catering to the lowest common denominator in a market already oversaturated with MMOs fighting for that same slice of pie. EVE has its own niche of players looking for real challenges in an MMO, so if they did arbitrarily put in checks and controls that make the game easier, they're headed in the opposite direction of where their winning formula has brought them - Never a good idea for any business.

Ok Yogi Bear But what's to say plexes have to be limited...

Plexes are entitlement clearly they enable people to play the game with in game funds if they wernt then you wouldn't be able to renew your subscription with them....."this item extends your game time by 30 days when activated" not "this item extends your game time for 30 days you cheap punk your not entitled to say you play eve if anyone asks"

Unfortunetly the facts remain a F*** load of people play via plex and suggesting they should go away untill they can afford it is ludicrous...

You do understand that there's no "fair" price on PLEX right?

You do understand that if prices are high it's because people have enough money to pay them?

Of course those who now can buy PLEX at 1B are not miners, there are activities that let people earn enough to afford those prices => demand goes up => offer adjusts prices upwards.

What about more plex variants ie 15 day versions or 7 day versions that are inherently cheaper and could act as middle ground when the **** hits the fan and help regulate prices via more mobile plex competition. Or even 50/50 plexes wher 15days is isk 15 days real cash....

Derath you need to look up the word possible because it was a possible soloution......Although you have now enlightened me and I now see your point capping them is probably a bad idea sure yea your right..


PLAYERS LEAVING THE GAME DUE TO NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD PLEXES IS STILL A BAD THING GIVEN THE AMMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO USE THEM FOR GAME TIME THOUGH!

do you think everyone will come back after they have had the break from the game or do you think they will find some other mmo?

Apparently you needed it.

You seem one of those pseudo-socialists who feel entitled for everyone being handed everything out for free or "welfare political price".

Sorry you EITHER pay a sub like in every other sub-based MMO

or

figure out how to be profitable enough to afford a PLEX

or

Good bye.


PLEXes need to be able to freely rise to be able to consume the immense amounts of ISK introduced in the game.

If you don't like the price, run incursions till CCP nerfs them or go disrupt incursions like other players are doing.