Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Has anyone proposed this?

Why don't sleepers come pouring through higher class wormholes that open in high-sec/low-sec/null-sec and attack people, POS'es, station services, pods.. and wreck general havoc on everything?

I'd love to hear a "Oh **** a C5 WH has opened in our space. RUN TO THE HILLS!!" over TeamSpeak.

You're a negative dog aren't you.

Aside from that, Sleeprs having some random appearances here and there wouldn't hurt. I'm pretty sure they would toast off a POS in short order with any real numbers though.

Well not toast but maybe reinforce. I'm pretty sure CCP would never allow sleepers to outright destroy POS'es (and with good reason), but reinforcing them would be cool.

But i'm not talking about WH space. I'm talking about space connected to these higher class wormholes.


If a C5 wormhole were to open in a system such as HED-GP, then the sleeper's AI might consider its denizens too dangerous and go out of their way to wreck havoc in that system.


Ooooh sleepers all over HED killing everyone.. i'm having girly giggles.

What sort of invasion could sleepers want? The only thing I could imagine is having sleepers guarding wormholes entrance.

I don't want sleepers to be too available in known space since they're the main source of income for wormholes and having them available for farm in K-space would reduce prices on the market.

I would only aggree to making WH more pernament arraged living if the indroduce another arm of the galaxy and move all the tech 3 stuff there and populate the old WH with normal stuff.

Then in the old one you have to build everything up, gates, stations the sorts. Make the gates destroyable too.

I greatly dislike the idea of people living in WH.
Thats not what its there for.
CCP said it too.

I look forward to the day sleepers start trying to actively kick us out of WH's, MORE RIBBONS!

I'd also like to see 20-50 Sleepless Guardians spawn on the Jita 4-4 undock or an incursion system. There's good story reasons for this, 4-4 is the hub for t3 salvage trading, it makes sense the sleepers would try to get it back, and Sansha's invade via WH's, what if a bunch of sleepers followed them through?

Yep, all about the story reasons, nothing at all to do with wanting to watch the carnage..

These specially, i like.

i think they should attack offline POS's within 24H of the tower going offline

and any tower that has been in the WH for over 2 months

the attacks should start small but if you don't kill them their numbers grow

at least a week or so between attacks on online POS

that way any active WH group gets a nice extra farm if they can manage the sleeper numbers right but all the offline POS towers get cleaned up :)

Attacking OFFLINE POS'es within 24h of them going offling = will help clean up WH's of dead POS'es, that are still a PITA to get rid off.

Attacking ONLINE POS'es in week intervals will make sure that, again, only active POS'es remain alive. If a POS has fuel to last the month but has been abandoned for whatever reason, it will be reinforced but not repaired and a week after its RF it'll be destroyed. Is that the angle people are going for here?!


Also, at least half of the proposed idea is that sleepers would come out of their wormholes to wreck havok in known space. Kind of like "Hey you stupid FUCKS, its time we got acquainted! DIE IN A FIRE! And come get us if you dare inside our WH!"

Ships that have been properly fitted to deal with sleepers and pilots that know they'll have to deal with sleepers as soon as they venture in space are one thing... they can easelly deal with sleepers.

However, null-sec/low-sec residents that have never seen a sleeper in his life and does not even know what they are, are going to be in for a surprise when they come crashing through that hole in space and warp to their station undock/gate/POS'ese. Especially if they are in a faction fitted ratting Nightmare.

You are afraid of sharing WH resources? Trust me, due to the unpredictability of the event nobody is going to be farming much.. and the lost assets in total will be greater than the resources looted.

I'm against increasing the supply of sleeper loot/salvage because it'll make my goods lower in price. No thanks.