EVE General Discussion

You don't need standings for jump clones as there are multiple ways to get them without them.

1. Join one of the "jump clone corps", check sell order forums for more info. It's free.

2. Get a friend with a rorq or that guy who does it using the rorquals clone vat bay (check sell order forums).

3. Find a "freeport" in 0.0, Chribba used to operate one in 9UY- in providence but it's no longer in his hands. If you're not red to CVA ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Curatores_Veritatis_Alliance ) you can probably use one of their stations but I've never done it and don't know if you can make clones. I know my alliance keep a useless station open to everyone ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/ZQ-Z3Y ) and I assume you can create clones there but there's probably a docking fee (use a covert ops or something small).

No need to grind standings at all...

Join a corp and get jump clones

Personal standings need to stay the way they are. They are keeping hi-sec missions in check and stopping them from becoming extremely overpowered, and that is coming from a Hi-sec mission runner. I think the grind for standings is at an appropriate level.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1400554

^^^ This is what I have done with every toon I've made. Its free and easy.

-Mad

the standings grind is ******* horrible. I'd love to get me some standings, but there is going to have to be an easier way.

Yes, CCP, I remember bribing the agents to get my gallente standing, and I want to do that again, pls.

I don't know why the grind is so ridiculous.

As I've said, the cliche "never fly what you can't afford to lose" really means implants. Ships, even shiny ones, come and go. But losing a noggin full of implants can set toons back months.

Worse, it's especially hard on newer players- the very group of people you need to cut some slack. The group of people everyone keeps saying they want to herd towards PvP. The very group that too often gets stuck in a PvE rut out of fear of losing the dozens of hours of PvE (like missions for LP) to get those implants.

How many more people would at least get out and try PvP if there wasn't a crazy PvE grind just to be able to 'afford' PvP?

It seems that Eve really front-loads the cover charge to get into the PvP club, which is counter-intuitive.
I'm not saying implants should be safe from loss- just that all these people are angry at care bears hiding in stations or never leaving high sec. People complain about the lack of targets in low and null.

But by halving the standing requirement for JC's- people could afford to just 'dabble' in PvP if they wanted. More PvP'ers, more targets. More fun.
I thought the goal was more people shooting each other- so why the ridiculous hoop to jump just to make it feasible?

There are corps that offer free JC service- but that's a work-around precisely because the current standing requirement is excessive.

At least for me, the moment I got JC, this entire game changed. I ran straight for the Frig Fry and sat there to be podded so I wouldn't have to fly a ton of jumps back to grab another ship.
Remember- "you are not your ship" ...........but you ARE that toon with the lazy eye and a small fortune in circuitry stapled to that squishy thing between your ears.

What Cael said.

Also, your excuse of not wanting to leave your corp is a little silly, because you're in the dumped-out-of-player-corp NPC corporation for your character's bloodline.

Join a JC service corp (Estel Arador, etc.), set up your jump clones, leave that corp, and hey look, you're back in Native Freshfood.

Problem solved - you have your JCs without having spent time grinding for standings, and you're still in a corp with people you like.

It doesn't even take that long to do when you're in an NPC corporation, because you don't have any roles or stasis timers to wait out.

This is mostly a repetition of what other stated, but your post made me a bit frustrated. Why do people feel they should get things for free?

Firstly, raising your standings to 8.0 with a npc corp is not hard. Do your homework. If you arent there in a few weeks of casual missioning you are doing smt wrong.

Secondly, as several people tried pointing out for you there are numerous other ways to do this. Joining another corp is just one of those ways. IF you do not want to change corp, well sad to say honey, but tough luck.

I would like my own Outpost named after me, but I really dont wanna go through all the buildingtime, gathering all the minerals and all that. I think CCP should make it easier.
A silly comparison, I agree, but nevertheless exactly the same thing.

When I wanted my first jumpclone back in the days to go out explore lowsec, guess what I did? See my corpname?

Work with the game, dont work against it.

No, this is just an alt.



Alaric gets what I'm trying to make you all understand. Jezz I'm not asking in any moment how to fast increase the standings or how do I increase my standings or that Im whining about that. I ******* KNOW HOW TO INCREASE THE STANDINGS! I'm talking about THE SYSTEM. It should be more intuitive and faster for player to get in the PVP world. It took me forever because I was not the usual mission runner. Its sad when friends call you to fight and you can't because you will be risking 500mil in implants (which are much for some players).

And have more, I dare to say that Jumpclones should be a built in feature of any player since the begning. It have its own penalts already



regards

Caldari COSMOS

'nuff said

Mr Epeen

Confirming that working towards a goal is, of course, something
that nobody should be bothered with.

*shakeshead* lazy ass.

Also: ******* coward with no balls hiding behind an alt.