Player Features and Ideas Discussion

woot ! positive feedback , didn't think that would happen !! lol
thanks!!

Like i said before , the current skill system the passive one wouldn't be altered , the active don't force you to go out there and grind. if you don't like to grind well don't your not being penalyzed because you ain't grinding.

I see it as i am running level 4 mission all day long , and it would be nice to gain some bonus as i pew pew with my missiles or drones or tank, doesn't have to be a big bonus , just something to make it look more " nice " more polished, yes i do like to see my ISKs piling up in the wallet , or getting some nice loots , upgrading new ships & what not.

Tho while i do this i often look at my skill page and i find it kind of lacking , seeing those big numbers of 10 days / 30 days skills and there's no way to improve them further, i mean i do have plenty of other skills i want to get , what will i have to play the game for like 10 years before i will finally get what i was aiming for ? , think most of you will agree that playing 10 years is a great idea and only the most " elite " player will make it... Not everyone is this dedicated into the game or can afford paying a subscription for leveling " ONE " skill. which is why sometimes the game feel empty or discourage new comers.

Nice system of active skill could possibly fix this as not only making the game look more rewarding on the career path you choose for your skill.

and for what Amaroq said....



I agree.

The point is some people would actually like to grind for more than just reputation or isk. I can imagine not everyone can afford two accounts to train for example an Industrial toon and a PVP/PVE toon at the same time. Maybe they don't make enough isk to do it either. Imagine how those people feel? ''I gotta wait 2-3 years to be good at both professions I want to do''

Who the hell wants to really wait 3 or 4 years to be good at a few things in the game. Some skills should be grindable in the game and I think other people feel the same way.

Yes there are implants and respecs here and there but it really isn't much.

If you really stop to think about it....... You live in a highly advanced civilization that has figured out how to cloak ships, jump ships across the universe, build stations, mine moons, implants and clones, etc., etc., etc., so why in the hell does it make sense that it takes so long to learn certain skills after learning certain basic skills previously?

Hey guys! I learned Frigates to 5, Destroyers to 5, Cruisers to 5, but..... Now its going to take me a month to learn Battleships to 5? After already taking almost a month to learn every other class to 5? Is my character stupid? Just doesn't get how to fly a ship? Has to take remedial classes? Oh okay.. I got it. Where can I hire a tutor to speed this up some?

Okay so what is the deal? All of our toons are just handicapped or something? I'm an absolute PRO with medium lazors but OH NO... Don't give me LARGE LAZORS... HO NOOOO.... I JUST WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM FOR ANOTHER MONTH OR SO....

That's just... Gay. In an epic proportion.

Well don't abuse it if you find it boring lol!!! THE WHOLE POINT , was to make it " a side bonus " to your current " activity "
If you don't feel like it's much , if you feel like it's a grind , just don't do it , it doesn't penalyze you , hey you've been skilling for over 10 years without it , why would you feel forced to do it now ?

This mainly help out the new comers to eve ( first day ) , remember your first day in EvE how massive the game looked and felt like being opressed cause everything is expensive , takes very long to get something done , lots of skills you have to train which you quickly realize 21 days / 60 days trial ain't enough ( AND you can't learn most of the skills on trial ) , so you are left with 2 choices , leave it there it's a boring game everything takes too much time and it's not for you, or keep it cool and sub for it even knowing you will be there for a year or 2 of training for basic cores and maybe get something done with 1 of your career path you choosed.

It takes too long imho , for a new beginner ...

You also mention " this game is free to play " , well yeah if you can plex it , now tell me how you gonna Plex it giving the scenario where ... you start the game on a trial , you know nobody, even now after 4 years i still can't seem to be able to Plex both my accounts... So it's not free to play.

As for the abusing the skill... I'm sure CCP can prevent that shouldn't be too hard for them to balence it out.

So what you want is not re-balancing of time based skill queues into semi-passive experience point grinds, but instead merely faster training?

It's still no. If you think people are going to be any better at this game when they start because they gain SP faster, or they're going to enjoy it more because they've read hundreds of guides saying "when starting out, spend three days shooting civilian guns at the monument in Amarr to train gunnery to level 5.", then you're wrong.

It's a boring grind, it'll be exploited, it was tried and abandoned in the beta ten years ago... etc.


In your opinion, fine. Look up Emoleas Ozran, he's a late 2011 toon with about 6m SP, yet at one point he kept up with me on the top killers list for a month until we both turned carebear. On top of that out of that alliance he's now one of the richest there, all from bowling about low sec doing exploration sites in battlecruisers/assault frigates.

What takes too long for some people is simply learning to play the game. It has very little to do with SP.

You don't need to know anybody, I've just been playing solo for months and I can plex three accounts just fine. Hell, I even bought an extra toon for 14b while I was at it. Emo plexs his account too I believe, again, on a character which is under 6 months old.

We are playing the same game right? You realize Eve players have a slight reputation for abusing game mechanics?

Sorry, you missed the bold I mean this game is free to play. Plex and whatnot.

there was probably a reason why the former thread got locked.
No need to re open this idea, just to keep it alive.

In short: This idea sucks...

Your name says it all... another Drizzt variation...

Do not need, Do not want. If I wanted to go smack stuff with a stick and raise my weapon skills I'd play wow...

This is horrible. You're basically forced to do repetitive actions to keep up with the bears doing their missions or mining. This will be abused to ****.

QFT

that kills the entire idea behind it . so no.
Tho minigames seems fun !! ( that could be another idea un-related to this tho )

and holy crap the amount of negative feedback on this again...

Sure guys sure ... you've earned it , hey you can fly some nice carriers guys , how many time have you spent away from the game while it was in queue , how many month did it take without you doing ANY effort while it was training ? yes yes .. you totally deserve it.
/sarcasm off

Are you kidding me ? you saying you know better how to fly a ship without doing ANY effort for it than someone who is activly doing stuff with it ? go buy common sense.

But beside that your perspective behind this idea is flawed, this is unrelated.

This is not a " oh look i shoot somebody , give me my new rank asap now "
To keep with the concept of EvE that skills take time to level up , same idea applies with the active . it's a " SIDE " bonus , you know what this mean ? it's not PRIMARY , meaning it's not forcing you to use it , heck you might even do activity which affect the skill you currently leveling and you might not even notice that it's there and you getting bonuses for it.

I don't want to turn this game into a grind fest with this idea ( as it is already a grind fest ), PRIMARY skill is the passive we already have , secondary would be the active , which double the implant effect you currently have based on the skill you are doing and activity you are at.

If you feel like it's forcing you to exploit it and go grind it. seriously ... just uninstall EvE already cause you have failed to comprehend.