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EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 Issues

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Darod Zyree
Doomheim
#141 - 2012-01-25 22:09:10 UTC
copy pasting from other thread, since this is becoming an issue for multiple people.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=703994#post703994
Ladeon Six wrote:

1) Memory usage in the client.

Firstly, the client now uses like 300-400 MB more memory than it does before. Before Incarna, my client was using maybe 350 MB of memory per client. After Incarna they hovered around 700 MB per client, which might be understandable with the graphics updates and WiS.

But seriously, Crucible 1.1 memory usage is 900 MB to 1.2 GB memory PER CLIENT. Is there some explanation for this major increase?

On a modern desktop with 8GB of memory it might not be a big deal, but people for multi-box and when we run clients on let's say a laptop with 4GB of memory it starts to cause some problems.


Confirming this, the increase in memory usage PER CLIENT is so much more now, what the hell happened.

And this is without resource cache enabled even...

CCP can you confirm? and give an explanation why?
Loren g
No Ma'am new eden chapter
#142 - 2012-01-25 22:49:51 UTC
Darod Zyree wrote:
copy pasting from other thread, since this is becoming an issue for multiple people.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=703994#post703994
Ladeon Six wrote:

1) Memory usage in the client.

Firstly, the client now uses like 300-400 MB more memory than it does before. Before Incarna, my client was using maybe 350 MB of memory per client. After Incarna they hovered around 700 MB per client, which might be understandable with the graphics updates and WiS.

But seriously, Crucible 1.1 memory usage is 900 MB to 1.2 GB memory PER CLIENT. Is there some explanation for this major increase?

On a modern desktop with 8GB of memory it might not be a big deal, but people for multi-box and when we run clients on let's say a laptop with 4GB of memory it starts to cause some problems.


Confirming this, the increase in memory usage PER CLIENT is so much more now, what the hell happened.

And this is without resource cache enabled even...

CCP can you confirm? and give an explanation why?




my laptop only has 3 gigs of ram is this why i cant run eve client now?
Joelan Monthue
DSR Corp
#143 - 2012-01-25 23:13:12 UTC
Loren g wrote:
Darod Zyree wrote:
copy pasting from other thread, since this is becoming an issue for multiple people.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=703994#post703994
Ladeon Six wrote:

1) Memory usage in the client.

Firstly, the client now uses like 300-400 MB more memory than it does before. Before Incarna, my client was using maybe 350 MB of memory per client. After Incarna they hovered around 700 MB per client, which might be understandable with the graphics updates and WiS.

But seriously, Crucible 1.1 memory usage is 900 MB to 1.2 GB memory PER CLIENT. Is there some explanation for this major increase?

On a modern desktop with 8GB of memory it might not be a big deal, but people for multi-box and when we run clients on let's say a laptop with 4GB of memory it starts to cause some problems.


Confirming this, the increase in memory usage PER CLIENT is so much more now, what the hell happened.

And this is without resource cache enabled even...

CCP can you confirm? and give an explanation why?




my laptop only has 3 gigs of ram is this why i cant run eve client now?


3gb RAM here too Sad
Joelan Monthue
DSR Corp
#144 - 2012-01-26 00:04:03 UTC
Right, full new download didn't work now either, so is that it?

I just plexed my account at Christmas for a year, now I can't get on the friggin server???

Can someone at ccp please give us an idea wtf is wrong?, I know my laptop is **** but I don't remember seeing any big banners lately on login telling us that we'd have to buy new hardware to run even the most basic settings of the client.

I do remember seeing something about being able to buy shoes now, 'cept of course I'd have to be able to login to the bloody game first.

Will I be entitled to a refund for plex that I've added to the account if I can no longer access the game???
Saadeera
Arts Masters
#145 - 2012-01-26 00:18:00 UTC
Maybe someone has already mentioned but:
1. why on earth did you swapped dot with comma when entering market order? I got used to this during last 3 years, now I need to change my habits
2. why there are only 24 of my bookmarks on this new menu ? I have much more, yet only 24 are visible and I cannot even rewind them up or down. Everything is fine in browser, but this menu is just strange
Mila Strelok
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#146 - 2012-01-26 01:19:15 UTC
new bug, very annoying for interceptors, now if you Control + SpamClick you will not aproach and target at same time, now it only target, but not aproach, this bug cost me many kills ¬¬
Rasz Lin
#147 - 2012-01-26 02:53:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Rasz Lin
Mila Strelok wrote:
new bug, very annoying for interceptors, now if you Control + SpamClick you will not aproach and target at same time, now it only target, but not aproach, this bug cost me many kills ¬¬


Q is approach you nub


Where did module activation click sound go???
marius gabinus
InfiniTek Corporation
#148 - 2012-01-26 03:32:51 UTC
Messoroz wrote:
marius gabinus wrote:
CCP Sputnik wrote:
Khamal Kahn wrote:
Update doesn't work on Mac. AGAIN! Arghhh!

I know. I should just crawl away and remain silent. Once again CCP shows they don't give a rat's anus about Mac users. Once again - as usual - I am forced to download the entire client. Once again, CCP doesn't care.

What else to say. I've said it each time and nothing changes.

Oh! And did I forget to say it is once again on BOTH Macs that I use, not one unique system.


I would really like to know more about this, what issue exactly are you experiencing? Are there any error messages?


Not sure if Khamal Kahn is reporting the same issue I did in post #15, but on my iMac it was not possible to click on anything in the UI, not ships, windows, or the new Neocom buttons. I can't even spin my ship. If I right click anywhere on the screen, I get the pop-up menu I would expect when right clicking on my ship. It seems that I can ctrl-TAB and switch between windows, but I still can't really select anything with the left mouse button.

Makes this update rather useless, since I can't really do anything! I can't even log off normally because even though I can hit ESC and the window pops up, I can't click on the Quit button. Had to Force Quit the client.

I'm using Mac OS X 10.6.8 on an iMac.


I actually got that issue on Windows 7 at some point before 1.1 came out, restarting the client however fixed it for me


After downloading client update #2, mouse actions are still very wonky in station. Can't really select much of anything with left mouse. Ship spinning is very erratic--ship seems to randomly spin around and around very quickly when moused on. Not possible to rotate vertically. Right mouse displays the ship menu no matter where the mouse is, even if its over another window or items in the Neocom. Items in the Neocom don't open when I click on them. Window controls--pin, close, menus--don't respond when I click on them. I haven't tried to enter space because I have no confidence of being able to control anything. Keyboard controls do seem to work, so I was able to exit the program by hitting ESC and then tabbing a lot until the Quit button was highlighted.
Dynamiittiukko
Fistful of Finns
#149 - 2012-01-26 04:14:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dynamiittiukko
Major issue:

The problems caused by drifting client clock (see here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=49326) were not fully resolved with the Jan 24th patch. While the symptoms were alleviated by a great deal (at least for me) the issue does still exist.

For two days it looked really good but tonight, when I was flying back home after approx. 3 hours of incursion running, loading a new system after gatejump halted at least 4 times (over a 13-jump flight).

Good news is, it only took about 20-30 seconds of waiting (instead of 4-8 minutes like before the patch) but that could still mean the difference between life and death when jumping into hostile systems. Either you lose half of your gatecloak time, or you get left behind while flying in a fleet. Neither one is a very appealing option.

Less serious issues:

Fam Trinly wrote:
Something really was broken with Crucible 1.1 #2 client patch :
I can see video playback issues and speed degradation in VLC media-player on second monitor when EVE is running on first


I got the same issue and I'm only using one monitor (and one client). I was playing mp3s via VLC while playing Eve and the mp3 playback was stuttering and crackling, kinda like if the comp ran out of resources (which it did not). At first I thought there's something wrong with VLC mp3 support but since this only happened while Eve was on, I doubt it. Not a very big issue but I did wonder.

Also, like some people already mentioned, the module activation *click* seems to be gone - you only get it when you shift-click a module to overheat it.

.d

PS. Trying to make a list item out of a quote breaks the Preview page layout (see here: http://epidi.com/eve/preview_layout_bug.png)! Well, that's also an issue, even if it isn't related to Crucible 1.1!
Nose ElGrande
Swarm Of Locusts
#150 - 2012-01-26 05:45:52 UTC
1. I have experienced the same green flash while adjusting probes as poster #128

2. SInce 1.1 the servers seem to have implemented an activity timer on clients and many more disconnects are occurring. I normally have 4 clients open on a 12 GB Win7 i7-960 PC, I monitor the connections with ping plotter and do not see any relation between the network connectivity and the disconnections. Often all four will die, I will log them all back on and they will die again almost immediately. I log them on again and they stay up for a while.

3. The recovery sequence from Disconnecting has changed. Previously, if I logged a client back in within about 15 minutes of disconnection, the socket would still be alive. Now the socket drops immediately. Yes, client crashes, and when immediately log back in I get the "The connection to the server was closed" message .... and the voice saying 'Connecting' . Clearing the Alert box reveals the animated 'Authenticating' bar that goes with the voice. I now need to hit Esc to clear that before clicking again on the Connect button and logging in with a new session. -- what has really changed is the addition of the authentication/voice sequence. If I have no socket/connection, how can it be 'Connecting'. Please remove the voice/banner routine from the sequence if the closed connection error occurs.

4. Fuel block colors, delayed in Nov, have still not been added (as promised)

5. All PI stacks still have leading zeros if the quantity exceeds 100,000 (110000 displays as 011)

6. Yes the blue 'I' is annoying in the Neocom. Please add Contracts to the static set of icons. Please allow us to determine which icons are displayed on the Neocom bar.

7. I'd have been happier if you had added horizontal scroll bars ....

Thanks for listening.
Loren g
No Ma'am new eden chapter
#151 - 2012-01-26 05:49:36 UTC
for all of those having problems runing their clients, windows vista is the problem. Possibly windows vista and under 4 gigs of ram cause that what i had. i upgraded my laptop to windows 7 and now eve runs just fine with three gigs of ram.

thanks microsoft for selling me a defective product (windows vista) than charging me to up grade to a os that works. nice scam bill gates has going there.
brammator
SUB ZERO.
#152 - 2012-01-26 06:01:52 UTC
Also, corporation/role management [titles] grid is broken, example: I have my pilots as
[x] PILOT [x] POS OP [x] POS MAN [ ] IN
but grid is like

Untitled 6 .. PILOT .. POS OP .. POS MAN .. IN
.......... [x] ....... [x] ........... [x] .............. [ ] ... [ ]
brammator
SUB ZERO.
#153 - 2012-01-26 06:27:49 UTC
Ah, and random "program stopped working" on gates/jumpbridges is very annoying (win7 x64). Will I have any reimbursement if someone catch my prowler? Because I'm not sure server logs will show that I got disconnected by ccp failure.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#154 - 2012-01-26 07:35:14 UTC
brammator wrote:
Ah, and random "program stopped working" on gates/jumpbridges is very annoying (win7 x64). Will I have any reimbursement if someone catch my prowler? Because I'm not sure server logs will show that I got disconnected by ccp failure.

Don't forget wormholes. Client crashes randomly on wormhole transit too.
Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices
#155 - 2012-01-26 09:47:16 UTC
I have two issues so far with this patch:

1) I'm unable to disable the chat neocom icon's blinking. it's just irritating.

2) The date display got removed from the lower-left corner. I was using that often, now i have to alt-tab to the OS every time i need to check what date it is.
Kara Balveda
Space-Time Laboratories
#156 - 2012-01-26 11:34:27 UTC
Karsa Egivand wrote:
Funnily enough, using the numpad (which is "," in my localized version of windows) now works for the first time. I had to use the point for decimals before, which isnt on the numpad.


I use the English version, but with a German keyboard. I love to have "," as the decimal point. Maybe the best thing would be if CCP just made this a config item, so I can chose to display my ISK as 12.345.678,90 instead of the 12,345,678.90, and at the same time can use "," instead of "." as the decimal point, while other users can still use the usual behaviour for their country.
ragupasta
Sabra Ace's
Invidia Gloriae Comes
#157 - 2012-01-26 12:08:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ragupasta
Crucible 1.1 and now 1.1.1 both have caused the autopatcher to hang. The temp files (downloader.exe, ect) all appear in the appdata/temp folder, but it just sit's there totally unresponsive.
Both times had to run the repair tool and patch it via that utility.

Lame and annoying, however I faired a bit better that some here, as I got it to work without redownloading the whole application again.

win7 x64
16GB ram
i7 980x
Geforce 470x
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#158 - 2012-01-26 13:02:42 UTC
Quote:
Localized Clients

Fixed some issues with the client not using appropriate decimal signs and grouping signs in localized number formatting.


Confirming that this did NOT solve the problem of not being able to use the numpad "." as a decimal separator in markte orders.
Fraagle Roche
F.R. Industries
The Funky Gibbon
#159 - 2012-01-26 13:42:38 UTC
I am having a similar problem as some of the previous posters. When launching the new Eve I get the old Quantum Rise splash, then a similar error message as has been posted before in this thread. I've managed to run the Eve repair tool by following advice given earlier in this thread and running it as administrator. Unfortunately that does not seem to
fix the problem at all. Any advice here would be very much appreciated
ROXGenghis
Perkone
Caldari State
#160 - 2012-01-26 13:58:25 UTC
brammator wrote:
Ah, and random "program stopped working" on gates/jumpbridges is very annoying (win7 x64). Will I have any reimbursement if someone catch my prowler? Because I'm not sure server logs will show that I got disconnected by ccp failure.

Yes, this is a bad one. Last night my client crashed 3 times after I went through gates. I also run Win7 x64.