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Using PLEX to train multiple characters on an account at once?

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Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#1 - 2012-01-25 06:37:25 UTC
Was just thinking, the other two slots on many accounts are left unused, because you can't train up more than one character at once...it's much more practical to have an entirely separate account. But what if you were able to redeem a 3nd and 3rd plex per account each month, to enable the other two to train simultaneously?

I understand there are still a few drawbacks here, like not being able to multibox with them, but you also get the added benefit of being able to let the 2nd and 3rd plexes expire without losing the functionality of the other toons.

I also imagine there would have to be a few coding tweaks to make it work, but I think it might be a good addition...?

thhief ghabmoef

Isabelle Evotori
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-01-25 06:59:27 UTC
i have read this before...

get a second account.....
no need for a code changeBig smile
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#3 - 2012-01-25 12:40:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jint Hikaru
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but you also get the added benefit of being able to let the 2nd and 3rd plexes expire without losing the functionality of the other toons.


So.. you want to train up 3 characters but dont want to pay for three accounts?

Just train them on 3 accounts then move them to your main account once they have reached the level of training you require.


Edit: Oh, and please dont use the word 'toon', it may not seem like it somethimes but we kinda would like to be somewhat more grown up than WOW.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#4 - 2012-01-25 20:04:05 UTC
I honestly have never played WoW...I picked that up from people in Eve. Ugh

I suppose a cash payment would work too, it just seemed like an idea to make plex that little bit more useful. You can do a lot with just a couple of months of training that might not justify yet another account, you know?

thhief ghabmoef

Heathkit
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-01-25 22:51:15 UTC
I like this idea. Say you've bought an industry alt and moved it to your account. Then you realize the alt would really benefit from, say, a month of trade skills, but don't want to stop your main from training.

You could do it with plex now - pay two plex to transfer, one to train for a month, then two to transfer back. Five plex isn't really worth it for one month of skills though, so no one would do that. But if you didn't have to transfer, more people would be likely to do it.

The result would be people cashing in plex who wouldn't necessarily do it otherwise. Since plex are only ever created when someone buys them with actual money, this just means more money for CCP and more skilled alts for everybody.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#6 - 2012-01-25 23:46:20 UTC
^ exactly

thhief ghabmoef

muhadin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-01-26 00:01:07 UTC  |  Edited by: muhadin
Another good instance this would be useful, would be pos gunners, cyno characters, that are on your alt combat characters accounts, so your main can use the cynos, or you can use the pos gunners to help defend your corp/alliances poses if need be. Without having to pay 2 plex to transfer the character off of a buddy program account or something.

Even longer trained characters could benefit from this, say you want a 2-3mil sp trade alt or a basic covert ops character, but you don't want to spend all the extra money that involves creating the account and transfer the character off? Trade alts don't matter whether they are on their own account, or not training on one of your exsisting accounts.

And trust me, i have all of my accoutns filled with useful characters from cyno characters, to freighter/transportship pilots, to covert frig pilots, that allow me to have eyes were i need them, as soon as i need them, and full cyno chains whenever i need. It is quite a huge advantage, especially when you don't encumber your pvp characters with all the extra scanning skills, trade skills, etc etc, and it also allows you to have characters all over the place, without paying any extra.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#8 - 2012-01-26 11:39:47 UTC
CCP makes money from the current system where someone trains up a character using 1 PLEX a month then a fee of 2 PLEX sees that character transferred over to the new owner/account.

Your proposal will cost CCP those transfer fees since everyone will train up their carrier-holding alt by simply spending their ISK on PLEX instead of buying a character.

If you can train up the skills your industry alt needs in 1 month, just train it for a month. You won't really miss that training time on the other two characters. The barrier to entry in the multiple-highly-skilled-characters-on-one-account stakes is having to make a decision between spending $20, or spending time training the alts instead of the main. Removing that barrier to entry will reduce the potential gains from having those alts.

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Tomytronic
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-01-26 11:58:09 UTC
The suggestion has been voiced in the CSM and other places that you PLEX up the other characters on your account to train them up. This saves having to keep creating new accounts for characters and lets you easily improve a character if you have a spare PLEX without having to reup full accounts. It also gives you access to those untrained characters constantly, as if you'd transferred them from an active account. It's apparently something they're looking into.
Taint
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-01-26 14:18:01 UTC
Just No
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#11 - 2012-01-26 20:43:40 UTC
Taint wrote:
Just No

You see a problem?

thhief ghabmoef

Rune Scorpio
Fixers Corporation
Pillars of Liberty
#12 - 2012-02-02 05:33:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Rune Scorpio
I think this is an idea that will generate more isk than "will be lost to CCP" because people arent making alts or using the transfer system. The thing is you cant use the characters on the same account at the same time. There will always be alt accounts because not many people like playing eve without there being something to do all the time, or being able to do something that needs 2 toons all by your lonesome.
Someone that doesn't want to spend 5 plex to give a months training to make a character on the account fun to play again/actually useful will never spend a single cent on it. However if I could spend a plex or 15$ I would absolutely do this.
Leon Issier
Black.Tie
#13 - 2012-04-01 21:21:20 UTC
I'll bump this thread instead of starting a new one.

I would like to train my alt for a month or two while keeping on training my main. Paying to transfer my alt into another account and then back isn't worth the cost. I would gladly pay a reasonable premium to train my alt on the same account.

The money lost from the transfer fees would be more than made up by the popularity of this feature.