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Chribba for CSM7. Like his post if you agree. 108 likes and counting he has the support!
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Kiran
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-01-25 17:43:44 UTC
The CSM is top heavy with the Null Sec alliances Eve needs a high sec representative to balance out the sov holders. Over the past year High Sec has suffered from the CSM that we currently have.
Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2012-01-25 17:43:53 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
If you pubbies like Chribba so much why didn't you come to save his station hen we invaded Providence?


Simply because if you are a member of the CSM you shouldn't neccesarily expect any in game benefit or advantage as a result of that position?


No

I'm saying that if you like Chribba so much why didn't you help him when faced with a genuine threat in game? There was plenty of huffing and puffing on the forums, but ultimately we took his sovereignty in 9UY without any resistance. You can blow smoke up his arse on the forums all you want. 'Oh Chribba you're so great you should run for CSM', but nothing will come of it, just like nothing came of everyone's sycophantic fanboyism during our invasion of his system, which we only did because we were bored and angry with CCP and wanted to stir up a ragtag pubbie army to fight.

Grumpy Owly wrote:

Or are you saying that the existing CSM members use it to suplement their power of course? You see how complacent the existing political climate is that it has made you in fact, revealed within your expectations, to how biast or corrupt the current CSM is. What a fool.


Oh no! You caught me! Checkmate! I'm so silly for letting the cat out of the bag... or maybe you're just a dumb pubbie who knows nothing.

You guys are so cute with your conspiracy theories. Firstly Test doesn't even have a CSM member (White Tree left to join ESG, 4chan's alliance). Secondly Goons and Pandemic Legion are on the CSM, massive holders of Tech moons, yet the CSM still asks CCP to address the Technetium bottleneck in T2 production thereby inevitably decreasing the value of those moons. CLEARLY IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY.

Do you want to know why nullsec alliances (representing ~10% of the players in the game) dominate the CSM? Because it used to be run by highsec players, and during that time they got it into their sweet little pubbie heads to remove our jumpbridges because they were concerned about 'force projection'. CCP went with their requests. How quaint that they'd feel the need to dictate how nullsec should live while knowing anything about it. There was a large backlash from nullsec, and CCP compromised by allowing one jumpbridge per starsystem.

So ever since we realised that the CSM has the power to screw us over we've simply started paying attention to it, nothing more. There's no conspiracy, it's just by the nature of nullsec you have to be organized to live in it, which is why nullsec produces candidates and actually votes for them. Highsec dwellers don't need to be at all organized so they don't produce candidates and they don't vote. Ivy League is probably the largest highsec voting bloc in the game, besides maybe Red vs Blue's combined consentual PvP alliances. Ivy League used to hold CSM seats but now do they even have a candidate? I'm not aware of one.

In any case it's far more likely that someone living in nullsec has more experience of the game as a whole than someone who has never left highsec. I've never seen Chribba voice a serious opinion on gameplay before, it's ususaly "lol veldspar, mining lasers, I have mining titans, lololol I'm the nice friendly Emperor Publord of all Pubdom" - Just because you like him (or it's fashionable to like him) doesn't mean he wants to do it, or is even qualified to do it.


Did I just get talked down to?....I think I just got talked down to. You speak of "We". Does your alliance even know you? Do they offer you homecooked meals and a place to stay in times of trouble?

I have a special tinfoil hat for your kind Mr. Mister. ;)

Would you like a kitten?

Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-01-25 17:58:14 UTC
Quote:
Ivy League is probably the largest highsec voting bloc in the game, besides maybe Red vs Blue's combined consentual PvP alliances.

I would be very surprised if the Incursion channels would not bring forth a candidate for CSM7.

.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-01-25 18:14:01 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Quote:
Ivy League is probably the largest highsec voting bloc in the game, besides maybe Red vs Blue's combined consentual PvP alliances.

I would be very surprised if the Incursion channels would not bring forth a candidate for CSM7.

There are no vanguard sites in Iceland though, good luck with that idea

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Snow Ogre Dude
Paladin Noesis
#45 - 2012-01-25 18:28:38 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
RANT RANT RANT


HIMS JUST MAD CAUS CLEVER MANS SEES HOW BIGS IDIOT HIMS IS.

RANTER NOT HEALTHY FOR GAME ME THINKS OR HIMS FREINDS, SAYS DUMB THINGS.


CHRIBS MIGHTS BE GOOD CHOICE AS A RESULT, IF SIMPLYS CAUSE RANTER NOT LIKES HIM

"Snow Ogres fall from heaven....... unassembled."
Pelador Rova
No Luck Corp
#46 - 2012-01-25 19:02:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Pelador Rova
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
If you pubbies like Chribba so much why didn't you come to save his station hen we invaded Providence?


Simply because if you are a member of the CSM you shouldn't neccesarily expect any in game benefit or advantage as a result of that position?


No

I'm saying that if you like Chribba so much why didn't you help him when faced with a genuine threat in game? There was plenty of huffing and puffing on the forums, but ultimately we took his sovereignty in 9UY without any resistance. You can blow smoke up his arse on the forums all you want. 'Oh Chribba you're so great you should run for CSM', but nothing will come of it, just like nothing came of everyone's sycophantic fanboyism during our invasion of his system, which we only did because we were bored and angry with CCP and wanted to stir up a ragtag pubbie army to fight.


Erm Yes, because maybe the role of the CSM is to ensure the overall benefit of EvE with a measured view to improving gameplay for all. It shouldnt be a medium for any form of IG benefit or MetaWin. Something you seem to be unable to grasp.

Quote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:

Or are you saying that the existing CSM members use it to suplement their power of course? You see how complacent the existing political climate is that it has made you in fact, revealed within your expectations, to how biast or corrupt the current CSM is. What a fool.


Oh no! You caught me! Checkmate! I'm so silly for letting the cat out of the bag... or maybe you're just a dumb pubbie who knows nothing.

You guys are so cute with your conspiracy theories. Firstly Test doesn't even have a CSM member (White Tree left to join ESG, 4chan's alliance). Secondly Goons and Pandemic Legion are on the CSM, massive holders of Tech moons, yet the CSM still asks CCP to address the Technetium bottleneck in T2 production thereby inevitably decreasing the value of those moons. CLEARLY IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY.



So using this example, even if a mutual nerf (and not removal I might add) of tech moons occurs for which these alliances have been amassing assests over time, they are now equally going to remove the opportunites for anyone else to make use of any opportunites in the future on an equal footing. If that isnt just tactical manipulation in favour of themselves I don't know what is.

Strip the assests, stop anyone from doing the same, capatalise on position. Yeah, totally fair.

And despite that, one example of possible slight mitigation against all the other biast changes or lack or neglet to various other features that need to be addressed in the eyes of the masses?

Methinks someone is punch drunk on the propganda juice the likes of goons serve.
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2012-01-25 19:27:45 UTC
Zixie Draco wrote:

Did I just get talked down to?....I think I just got talked down to. You speak of "We". Does your alliance even know you? Do they offer you homecooked meals and a place to stay in times of trouble?

I have a special tinfoil hat for your kind Mr. Mister. ;)


I'm sorry, I should have more sympathy with you as it's not your fault. It's normal human behaviour to fear what you don't know or understand, and you don't know or understand anything outside of your little highsec comfort zone. So you come up with conspiracy theories about the big bad griefer boogymen in nullsec controlling CCP and ordering them to nerf your mission running Drake tank just because they hate you. I'm afraid that I can't bring myself to respect people with opinions like these, They're just utterly ridiculous, and I know most of the people who hold them aren't open to reasonable argument. So forgive me if I come across as condescending.

Pelador Rova wrote:

Erm Yes, because maybe the role of the CSM is to ensure the overall benefit of EvE with a measured view to improving gameplay for all. It shouldnt be a medium for any form of IG benefit or MetaWin. Something you seem to be unable to grasp.


What you seem unable to grasp is that I am referring to an event that has nothing to do with the CSM, and everything to do with fanboys on the forum blowing smoke up Chribba's ass while ultimately doing nothing to help him. So you can start a thread about electing Chribba to CSM, but it won't happen, because you're all talk and no action.

Pelador Rova wrote:

So using this example, even if a mutual nerf (and not removal I might add) of tech moons occurs for which these alliances have been amassing assests over time, they are now equally going to remove the opportunites for anyone else to make use of any opportunites in the future on an equal footing. If that isnt just tactical manipulation in favour of themselves I don't know what is.


Oh my god. These mental acrobatics are amazing, I felt my brain twist in on itself as I read that paragraph. If I have a stroke in the near future I'm going to sue you.

There are two ways for an alliance to make money on a strategic level: Hold tech moons or let smaller alliances/corps rent space from you. Tech moons are only abundant in the north of Eve, therefore the alliances that live in the north these days tend not to have many renters, because they're annoying to deal with. Meanwhile in the south and in the drone regions there aren't many tech moons, and there you will find the vast renter networks of Red Allaince, Red Overlord, and xXDeathXx

One of the most well known former superpowers in Eve was Band of Brothers. They lived in Delve and Fountain in the South and West of the map, not many Tech moons down there at all. Their enemies were the Northern Coellition who had the vast majority of the techmoons in the north. As shown with the relatively recent collapse of the NC, it doesn't matter how many tech moons you hold, one day your time will come and you will fall.

You don't need tech moons to get started in Eve or rise to become a superpower. Your strategic analysis of nullsec politics is terrible, please don't try to do it again.
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries
Forgers United
#48 - 2012-01-25 19:32:47 UTC
Chribba for CSM! Lets push CCP towards industry expansion focused on mining and its improvements/bot cleaning.Cool
Tore Vest
#49 - 2012-01-25 19:33:54 UTC
Chribba... yeah P
But..
I rather see that CSM goes away....
from this game.. Bear

No troll.
Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#50 - 2012-01-25 19:42:05 UTC
Tore Vest wrote:
Chribba... yeah P
But..
I rather see that CSM goes away....
from this game.. Bear


Vote for Skippermonkey...he'll fix all the things. Or get primary'ed and die trying.

Would you like a kitten?

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#51 - 2012-01-25 19:44:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Bumblefck
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
If you pubbies like Chribba so much why didn't you come to save his station hen we invaded Providence?



Hello mr soft head man, your corp ticker doesn't say ~goon~ underneath it, so hey...guess that makes you a pubbie too!


e: more like a little goon waiter monkey in a waistcoat

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#52 - 2012-01-25 19:45:48 UTC
Kiran wrote:
The CSM is top heavy with the Null Sec alliances Eve needs a high sec representative to balance out the sov holders. Over the past year High Sec has suffered from the CSM that we currently have.

I live in highsec. Vote for me.
Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#53 - 2012-01-25 19:54:57 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Kiran wrote:
The CSM is top heavy with the Null Sec alliances Eve needs a high sec representative to balance out the sov holders. Over the past year High Sec has suffered from the CSM that we currently have.

I live in highsec. Vote for me.



I'm voting for Skippermonkey. It will be great.

Would you like a kitten?

Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-01-25 20:06:41 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Chribba gives every indication of being a grey suit known mostly for making 'first' posts in devblog threads. I don't think I've ever seen him express an opinion on any part in Eve. If that's who highsec chooses to represent them, great, since that means he likely won't interfere too much in actual CSM business.


chribba is an established part of the game itself, and as such doesnt allow himself a public opinion on anything other than Veldspar.

VOTE SKIPPERMONKEY


So what you're saying is that a vote for Chribba is a vote for God Only Knows What, He Could Agree With Anything.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-01-25 20:13:46 UTC
I find this thread highly entertaining, as the nomination and "liking" period doesn't begin until next month.

Also, I'd think that Chribba's work on 3rd party tools could create a potential conflict of interest with his duties as a CSM.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#56 - 2012-01-25 20:13:51 UTC
I still say vote for me. Fair and equal ammo distribution is my platform. I want eve to have balance and I'll do whatever it takes to get it.
Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#57 - 2012-01-25 20:33:14 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Zixie Draco wrote:

Did I just get talked down to?....I think I just got talked down to. You speak of "We". Does your alliance even know you? Do they offer you homecooked meals and a place to stay in times of trouble?

I have a special tinfoil hat for your kind Mr. Mister. ;)


I'm sorry, I should have more sympathy with you as it's not your fault. It's normal human behaviour to fear what you don't know or understand, and you don't know or understand anything outside of your little highsec comfort zone. So you come up with conspiracy theories about the big bad griefer boogymen in nullsec controlling CCP and ordering them to nerf your mission running Drake tank just because they hate you. I'm afraid that I can't bring myself to respect people with opinions like these, They're just utterly ridiculous, and I know most of the people who hold them aren't open to reasonable argument. So forgive me if I come across as condescending.



Talk about stereotypical profiling... what are you talking about "fear?..my little highsec?...conspiracy theories?...drakes?..."

Are you okay? Because this sounds as if you need some counseling to come to terms with your post traumatic high sec disorder.

Would you like a kitten?

Pelador Rova
No Luck Corp
#58 - 2012-01-25 20:36:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Pelador Rova
Zagam wrote:
Also, I'd think that Chribba's work on 3rd party tools could create a potential conflict of interest with his duties as a CSM.


Why?

Does CCP or CSM ban the use of useful third party tools?

Can't the design of third party tools be of a benefit to the community? Just as the in game issues.

Please explain why special consideration needs to be afforded to this that acts as an obstacle, as I'm just not seeing it.

OR

Is it just that any time devoted to the creation of tools beneficial to the EvE gaming community may overlap with possible responsibilities to the CSM? Granted I understand that point of view, but I'll leave that for Chribba to decide.


(However conflicts of interest are normally associated with confliciting motivations not diary schedules).
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-01-25 20:50:04 UTC
LOL, love the arguements here:

If the CSM doesn't argue for tech moon removal then they are corrupt and just want the ISK for themselves
If the CSM does argue for tech moon removal then they are corrupt and just don't want other people to get the same levels of ISK as themselves.

You can't have it both ways, it just labels you are a moron with no ability to actually think, you just come up with a theory and stick with it no matter the evidence or what happens.

I'm NOT a mittani fan (think hes a bit of an arrogant wanker myself ;) ) but neither do I have anything against him and I'm certainly not going to pre-judge his actions in the CSM just because I'm butt-hurt about getting killed/he has more isk than me/hes more well known than me.

Come up with some actual evidence of corruption, or at least stand up when you speak, its so muffled we can barely hear you!

-The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more) 
Tore Vest
#60 - 2012-01-25 20:52:27 UTC
Zixie Draco wrote:
Tore Vest wrote:
Chribba... yeah P
But..
I rather see that CSM goes away....
from this game.. Bear


Vote for Skippermonkey...he'll fix all the things. Or get primary'ed and die trying.

Who is Skippermonkey ?

No troll.