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FW Round Table @ Fan Fest 2012 - I'll be there CCP!!!

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Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-01-25 03:44:33 UTC
Hi all

I am going to fanfest (I'm from Australia btw) and will be at the Faction Warfare round table. So CCP had better show up this year!!!

For those that don't know, I started one of the first (maybe even the first) threads complaining about CCP missing the FW round table at the 2011 fan fest, and then blue balling us with promises of make up events/actions that never happened. Along with people like Hans, I have been bumping threads etc... to keep some pressure on CCP. The community pressure was acknowledged by Soundwave in his Crucilble 1.1 dev video.

Fast forwards from March 2011 to now and they have made 2 fixes to FW (plex respawn has been fixed and the loss of sec status bug was (supposedly - haven't heard one way or the other) fixed in the Crucible 1.1 patch. They have also allowed allianecs in. More importantly they have promised more FW love in the coming expansion(s).

I was interested in knowing who else might be going and what things the FW community thinks we should be discussing. Ideally I would like to have a number of issues/an agenda we can present to CCP for discussion/debate that has been presented by the FW community. Not random high sec carebears, CSM reps who want to use us as lab rats for null changes or bitter vets etc... - I mean proper FW membrs who have been in it for the long term, who want the good fights, actually plex and aren't just there for the FW LP and actually care about blowing up people like sassawong, predator elite, flyinghotpocklet (wassup corpie!!!) etc... and would like to see FW means for something.

I except there will be the usual trolls in this thread, but what the hell. The FW threads have been trolled for the last 10+ months and we have started to get some focus from CCP, so I'm not letting that put me off.

Har

< tl;dr > I'm going to fanfest and am awesome and hope to see you there for the FW round table!!!

Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#2 - 2012-01-25 15:32:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
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Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#3 - 2012-01-25 15:33:23 UTC
Har Harrison wrote:
Hi all

I am going to fanfest (I'm from Australia btw) and will be at the Faction Warfare round table. So CCP had better show up this year!!!



Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

You better be sure soundwave is back from Russia.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#4 - 2012-01-25 16:29:47 UTC
If I'm paying $1,000+ for a trip to Iceland, then there better be a hot blonde Icelandic chick awaiting my arrival.

Otherwise, too much of a sausage fest for me.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#5 - 2012-01-25 16:31:33 UTC
Anyway, I'd vote for you or Hans or anyone who could be a viable representative for FW. Though, I imagine you would need a greater platform than just FW in order to garner enough votes to be on the CSM. Good luck!

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-01-26 11:34:00 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Anyway, I'd vote for you or Hans or anyone who could be a viable representative for FW. Though, I imagine you would need a greater platform than just FW in order to garner enough votes to be on the CSM. Good luck!

As much as I would LOVE to do it - I think being in Australia would be hard due to costs of getting there and the time zone differences for chats etc...

Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-01-27 03:50:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Har Harrison
I think some of the following would be useful to present to CCP are a short paragraph/statement of why people do FW and what they want from it (and therefore why they do not like some of the ideas the CSM has for FW...)

Signature of Rel'k Bloodlor
Quote:
I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one. I will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec. Make FW worth our time. Reword us for what we already do. Give us some more activities to do.


Lifted from a statement by Rel'k Bloodlor
Quote:

We say casual they say drama
We say small scale they say alliance
We say not like null-lite they say nulls test bed
We say quik PvP they say popularity contest


Signature of Damassys Kadesh
Quote:
I am in Factional Warfare and it needs a lot of work:
-It's NOT a stepping stone to null
-It DOESN'T have balanced risk/reward
-It COULD EASILY be the best feature for small-scale PvP
CCP, the players are speaking up, please take the time to listen carefully

Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-01-29 09:33:58 UTC
Still looking for input to take to the round table as well as finding out who is going

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#9 - 2012-01-29 10:12:30 UTC
Well, they first forgot us at the last FF, then forgot to deliver blog/wall-o-text describing what their plans are to compensate us and they are now two weeks overdue on the video-/blog they claimed would give us insight.

At this rate we'll still be in the dark come FF so asking (read: beating them to a pulp with a decomposing herring) them what they plan to do for/with FW should be the first question Smile

Three+ years of evasion .. the only person in living memory who have pulled that off besides CCP was Berlusconi .. hahahahaha
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#10 - 2012-01-29 10:23:33 UTC
FW: Beaten wife syndrome.


We keep getting beat but come back/stay out of love
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#11 - 2012-01-30 03:35:23 UTC
Some depth to the clash its self. Millions of empire citizens die in this conflict every day, so can the game act like it?

Is there a way they see to reward us for small scale PvP that's not just giving use a farm able mission/plexing cash cow?

Please for the love of Oden Don't make this like 0.0, no boring sov fights, no crappy politics and propaganda.

Do not give FW some thing to big and stupid that makes large power blocks decide to come and take it a way, this isn't about cash and turf.

Its about combat in all its forms in new Eden from the frigg fleets to the dread drops. PLEASE REMIND THEM OF THIS 3 TIMES MINIMUM. It should be what you say every time they ask you what you any thing. :) Don't let them think/say that how they view it is how it is.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#12 - 2012-01-30 08:23:10 UTC
I would feel entitled to free beer. A lot of it Big smile
Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
#13 - 2012-01-30 08:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanaka Sekigahara
Deen Wispa wrote:
If I'm paying $1,000+ for a trip to Iceland, then there better be a hot blonde Icelandic chick awaiting my arrival.

Otherwise, too much of a sausage fest for me.
DNA analysis shows Icelanders are the most genetically homogeneous people in the world ( with the possible exception of japs)
Therefore, the chances of you getting anywhere with a hot blonde icelandic chic are slim to none.If you are not Icelandic, you are Untermenschen
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-01-30 09:26:48 UTC
Har Harrison wrote:
For those that don't know, I started one of the first (maybe even the first) threads complaining about CCP missing the FW round table at the 2011 fan fest, ... Along with people like Hans, I have been bumping threads etc... to keep some pressure on CCP.


The hero Eve-O deserves.

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2012-01-30 09:40:44 UTC
We'll be there too!

Shocker, I know.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard

Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-01-30 10:16:21 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
We'll be there too!

Shocker, I know.


You do know that we demand video evidence... so "YouTube or it didn't happen".
The Snowman
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-01-30 11:09:50 UTC
Maybe FW sites could be more like Incursion sites? Instead of constellation wide incursion, persistent 'incursion' styled events at individual solar systems.

people get lp paid if the system goes back into the control of your side and the enemy gets penalty to armor and damage etc.

Could be interesting and since the mechanics for incursions already exists why not use it?
Rixiu
PonyTek
#18 - 2012-01-30 13:25:17 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
We'll be there too!

Shocker, I know.


I believe it when I see it!
Gorongo Frostfyr
#19 - 2012-01-30 13:37:38 UTC
ill shatner on this table


OK
Tiberius Murderhorne
CONTRATTO
#20 - 2012-01-30 14:36:32 UTC
Good point further up... what did happen to the video that was going to mention stuff about faction war?? can we get some official word on this CCP???

also Lucky you Har, im hoping that these talks will make it onto youtube/live when they are on too for those of us that cant be there :D

Cheers
Tib

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