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Just a few things:

1.) Fleet Composition window does not restack with Fleet Window after exiting both and reforming fleet. Probably not when you exit it and reopen it either. This is when both are pinned.

2.) Not really a bug; but here goes: There is still no option, (though it may never have been requested till now, even if I find that hard to believe), to save fleet configurations and adverts. This would be a nice feature to have added shortly. In short, your Wing and squad selections, names for wings and squads, and Fleet settings and adverts for those fleets should all be capable of being saved.

Currently, every time you form a Fleet, you have to build the entire thing from scratch, This kind of defeats the purpose of bothering to name wings or squads, while being time consuming and high maintenance.

I'd like to see the option to have up to 5 fleets configured and saved, so all you have to do is select the fleet you want to use instead of form fleet, and go from there, advert already available.

3.) Chat icon on Neocom is not removable, and bumps group out of the way when you try to move it into that group. This means you can't delete it, (I heard someone succeeded in doing this, but it doesn't work for me), and can't move it off your standard Neocom. I'd rather it wasn't there, as it is redundant, (being elsewhere), and I haven't got much use for it. Also funny looking and out of place.

No offense, but it's gold colored and symbolizes two roundly shaped spindle poeople that have been melded together into some sort of wierd idol with a chat bubble coming out of one of their heads IIRC. It's like having bobblehaeds on my dashboard; it's just something I wouldn't do.

4.) Drone bay and Cargohold, (and probably open cargo containers), don't seem to stack as well as other windows; and may return to original opening location unpinned-one or the other-after closing and opening them.

A fix for this, if I remember rightly, is to open both, move one two where you want it and size it, the shift+drag the other to stack it, then pin them both down. Closing them and reopening them should have them in the same position and stacked, no matter which is opened first.

I got this to work, and it was still working last I checked, but I'm only half certain that is how I did it. I think the first time, I may have stacked them, but not pinned them and had them fall apart withone opening off to the left above chat again. Not 100% sure though.

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Everything else seems to work fine, and I can stack and pin Market, S&I, Bounties, Militia, Character Sheet, and a horde of other things, close them all up, and have them open into the same stack one at a time the way I want them. This is excellent, and I'm glad that is all working, (as intended?), now.

Neocom is arranged the way I like it, have it autohiding on the left with one group for often used but not space-worthy items, and Icons that I like, (Fleet, Corporation, Fitting, Calender, etc..), top-to-bottom, and that chat icon.

No idea why I have Calender in there, but it does mention a Mass test on SiSi, so it's useful. I may actually make use of it one day too. No, I still don't use SiSi either. Even though that may seem ironic, I like it.

Awesome work, though I've yet to test it undocking and changing systems. Hopefully it still works then.

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Another suggestion, is to allow us to save and export/import our window positions/settings and Neocom configuration now that everything appears to be-mostly-working.

This would be great for multiple accounts, and for those times when you have to reinstall because of patch failures or other reasons. You may not use the same configuration on all accounts, but many things would stay the same, and it would be nice to have those transferable to minimize reconfiguration.

I'm better with the Neo - Neocom now, but I would also like an option to turn blinking off and/or replace or augment it with a solid color to let me know something's up without demanding my attention in a distracting way.

It would be nice to be able to move the ships and items buttons, and even make the undock button a bit taller or something.

This patch overall is very nice, I can tell that some are bouncing with happiness over some of it.

PLEASE allow for windows to be minimized. Its annoying as hell for the chat window to just go hide itself. I group all my chats into one window pane, with all the tabs, and if something flashes, I can click the tab. One click. With the current, if the chat button flashes (If I notice) its at least two clicks to go back to it.

I liked the Windows 3.1 version of minimizing windows. :P

Not to mention, why would you have a minimize button on a window when it basically closes itself?

The blinking chat button is driving me nuts. I keep thinking I have a message. Please stop it blinking all of the time, have it blink only if I get a private message.

Thank you.

Also, you forgot to add a gamma slider.

Re: Module Names

Good (The goal, didn't quite happen): Making items easier to identify and locate

Bad (What happened): Loss of character in naming (afterburners)
Searches aren't any more useful and are often less efficient (missles)
No consistency between module types (A search for "Prototype" will display ,modules with meta levels 1,2,3 and 4.)

Suggestion: Prefix or suffix all items with item codes. This will make searching easier, present relevant information to the player quickly, allow character in the naming convention, and it is in line the corporation/space sandbox concept. All modules and charges already have categorical information that could be used to easily identify and find the desired items during a search. Using the market's lower level categories and the preexisting naming structure (pre-patch) I've created an example scheme (TYPE-INFO-META). INFO is the damage/payload type, plate/afterburner size, jamming type, etc..

AB/MWD
MWD-1MN-0 Microwarpdrive I
MWD-1MN-1 Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
AB-100MN-0 Afterburner I
AB-100MN-3 LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets

Armor Plates
AP-200-0 Reinforced Steel Plates I
AP-200-4 Reinforced Tungsten Plates

Missiles
HAM-KIN-0 Terror Assault Missile
HM-EM-1 Guristas Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
CM-TH-3 Dread Guristas Cataclysm Cruise Missile

I'm still playing around with most of the new stuff but...

OMG <3 COMPACT MEMBER LIST!!!!!one!!

Some of you should ask yourself this..

If you started playing today or later on from this moment forward, as in fresh greenhorn to EVE.. how would you feel if they came along with a patch that changed it to how the old system behaved?

You'd think the 'old' system that was just implemented was complete crap and utterly annoying.

Much like how you feel now with this new system (myself included). Having been so accustomed and used to the old one. spending years into thousands of hours of doing something.. makes such interface changes tough to swallow at first.

The New Neocom is better than the old one, I will admit and with potential.. needs a touch more like blinking adjustment, graphicly glitches need fix, and I personally wish the white/blue 'I' Icon was something else for each thing I minimize over there so I don't have to wait any fraction of a second at all for it to tell me what it is that I am looking to open.

Optional placement of a horizontal Neocom bar along top or bottom along with position adjustment option for locked targets, and the HUD.

While I see how some people may find the new features useful, personally the only one I would ever remotely consider using is resizing my neocom, the rest I either have a quicker way to do it (alt X to open the training menu), or they're not new (didnt clicking the picture already open your character menu?) or they just plain annoy me to no end. I liked having my windows minimize to the bottom of the screen like every other program ive ever used. And to be honest i would accept minimizing to anywhere BUT that bar that you already said was too full, but no. Apparently its not just when they're minimized but also when they're open? Why? They're open, I dont need an icon on my neocom to let me know that. And thats another thing, why can you only have Icons? I was a fan of reading that convenient word to remind me what each button did, not having to hover my mouse over it because ive never paid attention to what each icon was :/

But enough about the neocom. As someone who spends alot of time in low/null space I <3 the compact form of chat for spotting friendlies/hostiles in local.

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I don't see what was "fixed" by the AB/MWD renaming. I don't even recall anyone complaining about them. I really liked the old names. I mean, sure, I couldn't figure out by the name what module was better, (I used Evemon for the comparisons or just looked at the meta number).

I know it's not even 24 hours after patch time but I a agree with the immersion thing. For me removing the propulsion technology from the naming of the item makes it a more bland - I'm sure this isn't what you are after.

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Why on earth (or space) does the chat window now minimise to its own icon that looks more important than all the other icons? eg. looks like this [ ! ]. Personally I don't care about it's blinking, I've turned off all the blinks for chat channels that I've decided are not important to me. So if it blinks, I know I want to take a look. But two buttons on the com for the same thing... really?

My preferred behaviour is the chat window minimises back to the original icon.

I don't mean to criticise, the chat window always had unique functionality because you couldn't close it, so I can see why treating it like a normal window is causing some issues.

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There was one time time I had 3 icons that looked like this [ ! ]. They were all for different things. I had to click though them to find out who was who. What's lost from before the patch is when you minimised the name would still be shown on the bottom of the screen. Some way of identifying minimised window would be good.

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Can I have a "minimise all" button or hot key? Just recently (even before the Jan 24 patch); I've had a heap of windows up and wanted to quickly get to the main screen to interact with my ship. It felt like I had to dig through the screen to get to the bottom. My preferred behaviour... the button/hotkey would toggle minimise then restore. Similar to the [windows]-D hotkey action.

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My patching went like a dream, and I like the new look and the flexibility of the interface. - from my point of view well done in general.

Don't like new chat, blink is annoying, as is having to click 2 times now to open a minimized window instead of one. Also can chat be minimized to bottom of screen anymore or is that gone now? If so I'm sure this wont be only complaint about that.
Undock button poorly placed makes for accidental undocking.Can't find militia window in neocom. Dont like renaming, was unecessary, names appied inconsitently and in a confusing manner. the Limited, experimental, prototype etc monikers should have been aplied to the same meta levels, as opposed to scrambling them all up, was stupid.Fix that. Now.Also, noone wants their missile named "Trauma", is ghey.Name it " Schwerpunkt", or something cool like that.