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What is a good fleet composition for c5 statics?
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Sable Blitzmann
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-24 03:43:03 UTC
My corp has run a few c4 sites in RR battleships, and found out that it requires at least 3 RR BSs to run (preferably 4). however, we want to step up the game a bit and try out some c5 sites. However, that's always been in the realm of OMGWTFDPS (at least when I've considered it) and so I don't really know what to expect.

So my question is what's a good fleet composition for c5 anomalies? Can a carrier tank and solo a site? can 5/6 RR BSs handle themselves in it? Do we need dedicated logistics? Just want to know what I'm getting into here ;)
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2012-01-24 04:07:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
We used 8-10 RR Tengu with passive resists + a command Tengu with a max skill siege warfare mindlinked pilot.

If it wasn't in our system, we only did one escalation (can only fit one capital through). Otherwise we did 4 escalations, with Tengu pilots switching to capitals as needed after clearing the site.

Escalation 1 - Chimera (no triage, fighters assigned) - does most of the repping (most important capital)
Escalation 2 - Revelation - DPS
Escalation 3 - Revelation - DPS
Escalation 4 - Chimera - DPS (least important capital)

The Sleepers neut at most 4 targets, so you you want to be able to rep with whatever is left. Capitals don't have to worry about neuting in this case, as the Sleepers switch targets long before neuting affects them.

Solo in a carrier you will die.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-01-24 07:50:04 UTC
RR tengus are the easiest way to do C5s.
just get 5 RR tengus + as many nightmares as you have available and go to town.

if you want to do it with a carrier, use a triage archon and 3+ navy geddons/machs.
would recommend bringing a loki or 2 for webs and frig killing.
shield version works too with chimera + nightmares and tengus.

if using a carrier, it should be the only logi platform on field with subcaps fit for max DPS.
be aware that the capital escalation wave hurts. a lot.
be ready for it.

carrier needs around 7k dps tank (that's a 3 slot tank) and cap mods/rigs everywhere else.

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Sable Blitzmann
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-24 08:10:59 UTC
Thanks for the info guys...

I can fly a nid, which is the only feasible shield logi carrier available to us. A corpmate is able to fly an archon tho, but with armor tank generally comes less DPS. We'll have to come up with something.

More tactics and info welcome! =)
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-24 11:45:16 UTC
basic anoms:
5 RR tengu's, nightmares for massive dps.

capescalation:

triage armor carrier
webbing loki with armor fit and nos
Skirmish mindlink booster toon. this can be a damnation on field or any other ship running skirmish command modules.
dreads. cant have enough of them
2nd carrier. if you want to finish the site, load smartbombs. otherwise it doesnt matter what it does, it just has to sit there and be cool.

in action:
warp carrier in, hit triage.
Warp 1st dread and loki in. armor reps go to loki as well as energy transfer. the loki can nos the caps to keep webs running
if you have a damnation, have him run some ecm. itll draw the aggro away from the loki which is much more vulnerable.
web sleeper battleships and pop them with the dread.
when you feel safe, warp the 2nd dread in. if you want to be very safe, do this when there are 4-5 elite bs left. the more dreads and the more experience, the faster you can bring them in.
lastly, warp the 2nd carrier in. its there mainly to escalate and unless smartbombing around doesnt have much of a real task (though it can stay to rep a noctis if youre chaining anoms while 1st carrier moves on to the next site)
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#6 - 2012-01-24 13:12:07 UTC
1. Carrier in triage, t3's with MWD/AB or good range + webs. (possibly a dreadnought moros/rev).
2. Dreadnought
3. Optional carrier for fourth escalation.

Job done Big smile
Sable Blitzmann
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-24 17:42:54 UTC
Ah, forgot to mention that we will be raiding c5's, not living in one. So none of this multi-cap tomfoolery.

As I understand it, was can have 1 carrier as sole logi while we bring as much DPS on the field as possible. OR just go with a bunch of RR tengu's (which kinda sucks as our corp is mostly minmatar-flying pilots).
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2012-01-24 19:26:05 UTC
Well, we started with RR Tengu and an Archon doing shield repping with large shield transporters, not capital sized.

The extra repping was only required when the Sleepers switch targets, so as to give everyone a chance to adjust.

Typically only half the capital's reps are active at any time, to allow the rest to be quickly used on the next target (shield transports rep at the start of their cycle).
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-01-25 01:45:57 UTC
Sable Blitzmann wrote:
but with armor tank generally comes less DPS.


^this is a common misconception.
it's only true of ships that are meant to shield tank.

in general, the armor ships you will be using will do a lot more DPS that the shield ships you would alternatively use.

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