EVE General Discussion

I think the problem was more that there simply was no credible hisec candidate who could execute a campaign and rally the hisec residents behind him/her. Next time there might be, people seem more conscious of CSM, and hopefully there will be more votes in total.

I personally value general knowledge of EVE as a whole more than representing a certain interest group. I voted knowledge and experience, not security status. The main task of CSM is to give feedback on CCP's ideas, and filter and relay messages from the player base to CCP. And if you look just at the facts, CSM6 has been very successful in this, and the recent and future developments look blatantly :awesome: in my honest opinion.

And obviously CSM members deserve their individual freedom to write, comment, troll and keep playing the game as they please, just like we all have the right. Darius III and the Mittani are by far some of the best trollers this community has, would be a shame to lose them!

If you have an issue with the current CSM, elect a better one the next time.

Um. How did you go from incursions to CSM? Are you talking about Darius III's shooting of the mothership?

Like the OP, I have nothing personal against them either. They may be some of the greatest people I have never met in real life. But we aren't really talking about real life, are we?

I daresay that every player in Eve loves Eve like a child. They want to protect it, see it grow into something far greater than they could have ever hoped for. They want to present this child to others, proudly extolling its virtues, in the hopes that others will share in this child's life. And it seems that just like a child, there have been moments of faltering and falling down, but it always seemed to get back up and keep on going, reaching for the stars and dreaming.

But there is something very dark and foreboding within this child now, a malignancy that slowly claws at it over time. For all those who love this child and want it to become a bright and shining example, there are those who would use the child for their own nefarious purposes. They seek to advance only themselves, even at the cost of the child's life if necessary. They introduce viral infections into the child, milking the essence of the child for their gains. They have no affection for the child, it has become a means to an end to them, nothing more.

Unfortunately, it is generally viewed that some of those who should be the greatest caretakers of all are complicent in these dark tidings. Also unfortunate is the fact that not much can be done now, even with the knowledge of the crimes all but in hand. Because we hold these caretakers to a higher standard, we have a far more focused and angered response. Add to that the general consensus that the playerbase does not feel as though it is being represented and it's like tinder on a fire.

Looking back, I am surprised that I did not recognize the signs sooner. I truly believe that the first ripples of what could be a nasty revolution have finally hit us. Eve players are, for the most part, an intelligent lot. They have seen some things, heard some whispers that have some root in reality and they are becoming very put out by the state of things. When they are silenced by the powers that be, it does not reassure them, it only makes them more suspicious of foul play and angrier that they are being marginalized.

I don't know alot about the CSM, I wager not many people could name more than two or three within reading this sentence. The ones that they can readily are the ones that they feel lead the vanguard of this cancer. Whether or not it's 100% true has become irrelevent. Enough has been said and done that it makes anything to stifle it a bad response. The mob has its hackles up now, they're grabbing pitchforks and torches. Things like this don't help:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=15467

Take it as you will. I've actually read the original post concerning that, though I have searched for the last thirty minutes and have come up empty now. Some things have been changed since then, so I am not going to have much luck, I do believe.

It's things like these that are causing all the really nasty feelings to boil to the surface. Thiings like these don't really help to make everyone calmer. And the response lately has been to silence the criticism, which only makes it worse. So yeah, that might explain the yucky feeling people are having concerning the CSMs.

who would have thought that the CSM, a body representing the most vocal of CCP's customers, doesn't lick Hilmar's boots

Okay.. I'm am idiot and I need this to be explained in depth to me.

How does Darius destroying Motherships in incurious have anything to do with him being on the CSM, and how would he not be able to destroy motherships by not being on the CSM?

If we use your argument then nobody can simply fly into an incursion and do what Darius is doing without being on the CSM.

"CSM members are not playing within my arbitrary bounds they should be removed (("

Occam's razor.

*gasp* What a shocking answer from a goonie!

I particularly like what some else said in another post...

Politicians do it in real life, so why shouldn't it happen in Eve too?