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T1 vs T2 Scanning Frigates.
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Charis Perceptum
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-01-20 19:53:05 UTC
Quick question; which is better for high sec scanning? T1 frigate or tne T2 scanning frigates?
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-01-20 19:54:15 UTC
Charis Perceptum wrote:
Quick question; which is better for high sec scanning? T1 frigate or tne T2 scanning frigates?

:O
read bonuses -->profit?
Charis Perceptum
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-01-20 19:55:08 UTC
lol, ok.
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#4 - 2012-01-20 19:55:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lauren Hellfury
T2 are better because they get a larger bonus to probe scan strength, but a t1 should be able to scan down anything in high-sec with a bit of practice and mid. skills.


Oop. Forgot to mention that you'll need cov-op 3 for it to be better than the T1. Since you will have frig 5 already = 25% bonus on the T1.

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Khrage
#5 - 2012-01-20 20:24:15 UTC
investing in your cov-ops ships is one of the best things you can do. skills, isk, and time put into practicing scanning. i couldn't tell you how many times i've wished i'd had been the scout in my cov-ops ship in both logistic running (wh route finding) and pvp situations. the time you save and the opertunites you gain by having a maxed out scanner are priceless.
Tabernack en Chasteaux
Phoibe Enterprises
#6 - 2012-01-20 21:10:53 UTC
Charis Perceptum wrote:
Quick question; which is better for high sec scanning? T1 frigate or tne T2 scanning frigates?


Truth be told, for strictly high sec business I prefer my Imicus to the Helios, as I can actually clear radar sites reasonably well. I can't comment on the other races' scanning frigates. But in general, for high sec you don't need the extra scan strength, and unless you're wardecced the covops cloak doesn't really help you either.

Neither will do a 3/10 site. But, if all you are doing is scanning, the covert ops ship is clearly the stronger choice.
DooDoo Gum
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-01-24 10:43:08 UTC
The t1 gallente frig will clear radar sites nicely, carries 3 drones and each level gives you a bonus to drone control range so you can range tank if need be, stick a couple of grav rigs in there to help with the probe strength and you will be set to go.

I cant emphasise enough on how important scanning technique is though... more important than the ship from my experience
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-01-24 17:41:54 UTC
DooDoo Gum wrote:
I cant emphasise enough on how important scanning technique is though... more important than the ship from my experience


This this and this. Quoted for emphasis.
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-01-24 18:58:55 UTC
+1 on the imicus for high sec. The 3 drones and ship bonus outweigh the slightly better scan strength of the t2 ships. In a similar vein, the Magnate carries 2 drones but can fit a small repper.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2012-01-24 22:10:41 UTC
Charis Perceptum wrote:
Quick question; which is better for high sec scanning? T1 frigate or tne T2 scanning frigates?


If all you want to do with the ship is probe scan then, you are able to get better scanning performance from a bonused t2 covops frigate than the t1 counterpart. A t3 setup to scan can be better again.

Practice & experience, skills trained, equipment used, and implants fitted will also contribute to your probe scanning efficiency.

If you only want to scan in hisec then the additional benefits of a T2/T3 scanner ship (especially covops cloak, but possibly also T3 nullifier) are not so important. All the same being able to fly covops cloakies is a humungous capability once you start moving out of hisec, and is also very handy in hisec.

If you want to do other stuff with the ship ... such as setup an all-in-one scanner / shooter / salvager ... and you have good scanning skills, then other ship types may be perfectly adequate for your needs. I used a multi-function thrasher for a while when I first started hisec scanning exploration ... but quickly moved to using a two-ship fleet with a dedicated scanner / salvager (etc) and a dedicated shooter.


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DooDoo Gum
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-01-25 04:04:45 UTC
[Noob Scanner]
Small 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
100mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Civilian Afterburner
Codebreaker I
Core Probe Launcher I,Core Scanner Probe I [get sisters variants if you can]
[weapon of choice]
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

Hobgoblin I x3

Clears radars fine, tried it on a 3 day old char, lucked on 90 mill worth of radars within a few hours...
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-01-25 20:05:43 UTC
Get into a covops. You will get a much stronger scanning bonus, and the ability to warp cloaked, which is utterly invaluable whenever you want to go WH diving. Also: you get a stealth bomber out of the deal too. Nice, huh?
Charis Perceptum
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-02-06 13:58:34 UTC
Thank you for all of the inputs. Still tweeking my skills and refining how to scan has been part of the problem for me. I've watched the video's but have had little to no luck discerning which is which on the sites. As the old saying goes, "Practice makes perfect..."
DooDoo Gum
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-03-29 01:41:46 UTC
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote:
Get into a covops. You will get a much stronger scanning bonus, and the ability to warp cloaked, which is utterly invaluable whenever you want to go WH diving. Also: you get a stealth bomber out of the deal too. Nice, huh?


i believe the question was for 'highsec'scanning' of which a cov ops is not as necessary, aside from the obvious bonuses to probe strength, they are not as useful for 'solo' highsec exploration due to their inability to run sites as effectively as their t1 counterpart