EVE General Discussion

Until someone takes it from you.

EVE still needs more reasons not just to kill your neighbor, but kill specific ones in specific places and steal their stuff. This is one of those reasons.

Um Goons are actually pretty good about not scamming folks who are cluefull enough to join the SA website. On the other hand SA gets your $10 on the deal.

What about 0.4 moon mining? The material is there, but it is unaccessible.

I dunno about anyone else, but I know plenty of people who hold personal moon mining ops in 0.0. Alliances need the high paying moons to pay the bills and make sure I can keep getting blown up, but the low end ones can be claimed by anyone whos corp trusts them with the roles to run one. Fill out the proper forms(to prevent fighting with each other over moons) and hooray, your own personal moons.

Guess thats not as common as I thought, but I coulda sworn I've heard plenty of other people say they had personal moon goo.

I don't see anything wrong with high-end moon goo as it is right now. The big alliance need big assets to fight over, as has been said several times the money is used to fund alliance operations.

If people want to mine high-end moon materials elsewhere, perhaps randomly spawned discoverable deposits (which disappear once depleted) could be worked into PI somehow.

Any 'nerf' should be focused on increasing overall supply. I likes my cheap T2, thanks.

Your alliance mates and pos/stations/whatever stuff belonging to them IS the best asset you can have. You look dumb with your tech moons and no one to defend them with you/for you and a very good reason for grieffing corps/alliances to attack your stuff with corp A and sell you merc services with corp B.

Sometime people should make their brains work a little bit...

Here's 3 reasons:

1: Moon shuffling is a disincentive to combat - why would I invade your region full of tech moons if they were going to despawn and pop up somewhere else by the time we'd finished fighting over them? May as well sit tight and wait to see if next month's shuffle drops them into our lap.

2: Instead, it rewards low-risk, tedious and repetitive activities like flying around in a probing prowler moonscanning entire regions on a regular basis. Eve doesn't need more boredom, thanks.

3: It also benefits large alliances with the manpower to delegate enough players carry out organised scanning sweeps. The little 30 man lowsec corp might be sitting with a tech moon right under their nose but if they don't have enough masochists to spend hours of their lives looking for them the first they'll know about it is when us or PL or Solar Fleet plonk down a tower in their back yard.



Except it would produce the exact opposite.

Tech is stupidly broken and badly needs to be devalued, preferably by switching the material requirements for the T2 production chain so the R64s and other R32s are in greater demand. Moon shuffling soves nothing.

Just a friendly reminder for some people to add to their own mental equations of 'perfection in EVE'..

There needs to be reasons for people to fight. More than just 'I want to pew-pew'.. which isn't enough to fuel a player driven economy of pop-n-gone. You, I, everyone needs these '900 ships destroyed in last 24 hours in ::insert null/low system here::'

If you flood materials in all over the place. the desire to go fight for some things shrinks, cause quite simply you don't need to. And some of you will become what you seem to 'hate'.. fatcats, lazy and fat with no reason to change n adapt. Like it or not.. this is infact a stronger stigma tied to 'carebears' hugging highsec-only when you actually give it serious, unbiased thought. Chances of being uprooted lowering is a bad.. bad.. bad idea. Prime example.. Incursion debate. Players are having their Incursion money tree uprooted.. welcome to the feeling of being invaded and losing moons/systems/sanctums/and so on. Sucks doesn't it. Welcome to EVE.

Ontop of that.. a surplus of materials driving down profits. Sure you can argue.. lower costs will equal more pew-pew because of ship/mod cost. In my experince.. while I agree I am some one that will fight for absolutely no reason.. I think some of you are hypocritically in this arguement. Fighting some one for no reason is.. 'griefing'. You believe there should be a reason to fight between people. I also agree that fighting for a reason makes it feel.. Better, more fulfilling, and epic in quality...

Fighting for resources is fighting for Power. Don't take this way of overpopulating resources.. or there will end up being an empty void in EVE and it'll roll down a slippery slope to feeling utterly bland and tasteless.

And if you cut down on how much materials is coming in.. obviously costs will go up as supply goes down. CCP has to tight rope walk this.

And as someone else stated.. while in principle that idea of rotating moons will push fights around null/low.. from an RP athestics standpoint, UGH terrible to wrap around the notion.. lots don't care about such. Fair enough.. but one problem it will have is it will create a serious bottleneck in materials as people try to find the hot spots.. and then time spent to take them. And some wars take longer than a month.. even before the war ends, the materials move. Leaving not much chance, effort, ability to harvest n move.

And.. you can't fix stupid and some of you are just flat out stupid. Deal with it.