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Caracal vs. Hulk

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Assyrinja
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-24 14:27:23 UTC
We have to settle a bill with some Hulk miners and I wonder if 2 Caracal can destroy a Hulk.
We think about using Heavy Assault Missile Launchers .
Any (other) fitting-suggestions ?
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#2 - 2012-01-24 14:52:40 UTC
Just use 3 blaster catalysts or thrashers, much cheaper and higher dps. Or if you're really intent on using cruisers, go with a couple thoraxes.

ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon

Salcon Cliff
Zephyr Corp
#3 - 2012-01-24 15:09:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Salcon Cliff
This is a SS gank, I assume?

A pair of destroyers (thrashers w/ plasma, Corecers w/ MF, or Catalysts with antimatter) will make short work of a hulk unless it is very well tanked. If it is well tanked or to be 'safe', add a third.

Note that a Hulk tanks a bit better vs. antimatter than plasma or (especially) MF, so there is a bit of an offset - antimatter catalyst puts out the most DPS, but the EHP of the target will likely by 1k more or so EHP. If the Hulk has a serious tank (including a DCUII) and you are in a higher sec system, three might not be enough. Then you may need to go with crusiers,. but honestly, the dessies put out almost the same DPS as the cruisers.

Btw, as far as T2 ammo goes, Void and Conflag are good, but Hail will suck vs. a hulk.
Khrage
#4 - 2012-01-24 18:13:38 UTC
op obviously is a missile guy. he's asking if the caracal would work/be profitable. i don't know since i don't gank carebears in high sec.

i hate when people just say that's wrong do this instead of actually answering the guy's question.
Salcon Cliff
Zephyr Corp
#5 - 2012-01-24 18:30:30 UTC
We are indirectly answering his question, but you are right, we could be more clear:

No, 2x Caracals would not likely take down a hulk.
If you are going to use a Caracal, then HAMs are the way to go, most likely (skill dependent).

For other fitting suggestions, see above :) (i.e. fit a different ship).

For another non-requested recommendations, declare war on them :D.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2012-01-24 23:37:38 UTC
Anything with enough time can kill a Hulk.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2012-01-25 10:30:55 UTC
I would say hell yeah, 2x Caracals can kill a Hulk. Even one could do it, so long as you kill his drones first. You have plenty of options on how to fit depending on your skills.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-01-25 14:27:47 UTC
It would help if you specify where you're planning to gank these hulks.

If it's in hi-sec, the question is about whether two caracals could kill a hulk before being popped by CONCORD themselves. My gut on this says probably not - best use dessies. But if you insist on Caracals, try HAMs as a poster above suggested.

If it's elsewhere, then anything can kill a hulk with enough time. I personally would recommend using another Hulk, so that you could have an Epic Exhumer Duel.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#9 - 2012-01-28 01:09:54 UTC
All this talk depends on the security of the system and the tank on the hulk.

If you are talking about a 0.5 and open up on the hulk at the same time, I'm going to bet it blows up before concord gets to you even if it's well tanked.

I would suggest you use 3 catalyst and here is why: You seem to be caldari and the hybrid guns needed work on a lot of caldari ships. The destroyer is very quick to get into. The price is right.

One cata can take down a retriever in a 0.7 before concord gets to them. I have seen this a half dozen times. Hope it helps give you an idea of what your dealing with.

Make sure you have an alt use a passive targeter and a ship scanner so you know what to shoot at this guy before your guys drop on him. THINK AHEAD! If he has a huge resist hole I'm sure your missles could rip him apart in a 0.7.
I likegirls
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#10 - 2012-01-28 02:44:53 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Anything with enough time can kill a Hulk.


My Ibis can't. Learn to play EVE.
Assyrinja
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-01-28 10:58:41 UTC
Thank you for your answers. The case has changed lightly because the corp in question has declared war on us.
So we might es well take our Drakes to do the job.
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2012-01-28 19:05:38 UTC
I likegirls wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Anything with enough time can kill a Hulk.


My Ibis can't. Learn to play EVE.


My ibis can, your ibis must be terribly fit.