Ships & Modules

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Moving the thread to a more appropriate section and removing a few offtopic posts.

Derp. Double post.

"These ships do not fit into my narrow-minded and restrictive pvp philosophies, they are all terrible."

OP is a troll; thread is terrible and/or pointless

You forgot the Cerberus, Eagle, Raptor, Brutix, and Hawk.

hmm, depends on what you want.

Raven is used in PVE quite a lot, untill people can afford an CNR or a Gollem., would be nice to see it more usefull in PVP, though that is more a Missile problem than a Raven problem.

Moa will get more use with the Hybride upgrade.

Kitsune is a great ship in FW or in any 1vs1 frigate fight. Defending complexes or chasing people away from them is a very good use for them.

If CCP wants people to fly more different hulls, let them do something about the insurence system. People will keep flying BC,s because of the difference isk risk.

loosing a drake with insurence will cost about 40/50 million, you can't buy t2 cruiser hull from that. nerf all you will, but when you nerf the insurence you will get more divercity than nerfing single ships, which will only lead to a different ship to be the king of the hill.

Yay easy Troll day, whoop whoop.

You obviously have only seen these ships in PVE, because that's all you can do.

I did start reading the wall of text, but it made less sense than your list did, somehow, congrats.

I think you got cabin fever from staying docked too long. Them space cakes aren't what you think.

I too have seen Dreads doing lvl 4's...... not ever.

Lol, thanks, probably gonna have a beer and try reading that again...


Na, dude, where is the echelon thing and that PI noctise thing, they are useless ships, if your going to rant, try nice easy to manage paragraphs please.

I do have a slight headache now, do you know what directed syntax is? can you make a straight concise point?

I did explain, because wiki says it's computer programming, not that that's the issue, because I was talking about something else entirely, I did have a point, but it was probably lost someplace in this explanation of irrational text. I have put in some punctuation, but that is mostly because of my typing habits rather than my will to punctuate this text so that it is easy to read, and not so taxing on the mind as some great paragraphs can, and have been in the past. I do understand it is easy to drivel on and on pointlessly skipping merrily about a subject as if writing a novel or story passed down through the ages, digressing only to emphasise my perpetual need to be understood as well as I understand others, though in part, perhaps this paragraph would be a misinterpretation of that fact. I would also like you to note how hard on the eyes this great wall of text actually is and reading it back to look for obvious spelling errors and that kind of stuff is actually beginning to hurt my eyes slightly, and the way I double adjective things makes my brow furrow almost as much as my repetitive over indirect approach to trying to eventually come to the presence of trying to pertain to achieving a potential to come to arrange a fulcrum of dialogue, enabling me to achieve a point.

Burp.Derp.

Augoror
Maller
Omen
Moa (ok it's a T1 cruiser, and thus trash anyway, but they don't measure up as badly as people tend to think)
Osprey
Celestis
Exequror
Scythe
Raven
Rokh
Hyperion
Typhoon
Sentinel
Kitsune
Keres
Hyena
Revelation
Phoenix
Moros
Naglfar
Prophecy (highly dabatable, considering how good it is with blasters now)
Ferox
Cyclone

Bolded the ones you're laughably wrong about for PVP.

To add some that are genuinely worthless:
Condor
Executioner
Slasher
Atron
Maulus
Breacher
Inquisitor
Succubus
Worm

to OP:

Augoror - t1 logistics, low sp requirement and good way to start learning logi. not worhtless dispite what people keep saying about it, like the other t1 logi cruisers. not worthless
Maller - not worthless, could use buff though. neuting mallers are good for what they are
Omen - laser based t1 cruiser firepower, no what if it has no tank if you get good dps, or vise versa, not worthless
Moa - no, blaster moas are some of the most underrated ships out there. not worthless
Osprey - haha, not worthless. best mining cruiser for casual miner
Celestis - just as effective as its t2 counterparts at dampening. in a fleet with damps as EWAR as choice, for such a cheap ship, it can actually help. worthless alone, but then again, most ships are, yet at the same time, rarely are ships ever alone.
Exequror - (top)
Scythe - (top)
Raven - you sir are a joke if you think the raven is worthless
Rokh (starting to see a bit more use now that rails were buffed) - losing credibility with each stupid choice like this
Hyperion - not worthless, some of the best warp in dps you can get
Typhoon - takes lots of skill, but again you are a joke if you think a phoon is worthless
Sentinel - good solo/small frig fleet, but as all EWAR frigs, they are worthless in larger engagements
Kitsune - great anti ECM ECMer. all EAFs need buff. smaller the gang, better it is
Keres - all EAFs need a buff
Hyena - all EAFs need a buff
Revelation - you are a joke
Phoenix - worst out of the dreads but far from useless. can put out the most dps in specific situations.
Moros - shoot yourself in the face with a rack of XL blasters from a moros, it might make you smarter
Naglfar - it's effing VERTICAL. not worthless
Prophecy - ' https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=681108#post681108 ' it and the ferox really are next to pointless...
Ferox - it's more like an issue with the tier system for these, read post above.
Cyclone - and you end with a great ship. not worthless. you are.

and to top it all off you didn't put the Eagle on the list... i guess this makes you list completely worthless.

I see typhoons and cyclones all the time. Ferox too. Hyperion has a niche - but its tiny and I would like to see it have a bit more utility - like another low slot for ARMOR tank or tracking mods... Starting to see the Rohk in the wild since the hybrid buff.

I think its hilarious that people say that the Raven isnt flown because it is primaried all the time. As a gallente blatership pilot, being primaried is part of life. Boo hoo for the raven.

Personally, I have recently started to like the Celestis. Damps can really ruin a T3 BC day. Or actually, 3 of them at once.

Aside from Drake and Tengu, most of caldari ships should be on that list. Missiles need an update, especially cruise and torps ships could use a buff. Why fly a Torp Raven on fleet when you can fly a Mael with arties, getting close to double the alpha, near similar dps and more than double the range, being faster and have a less sig radius.
Not to mention that wonderful thing called travel time.

T1 BC's are slacking along with T1 cruisers aside from Minnie ships.
Most could big helped in a big way with just a power grid increase.