Missions & Complexes

Hello gentle beings,

I'm missioning in high-sec and wanted to know if there's a "rule" (like the 3k/ehp hauling rule) about blinging mission ship.

As I see it, there's two kinds of bling: the one you need (like, lower CPU requirement) and the one you use so you can kill stuff faster.

I only use one deadspace mod (a Pith B X-large shield booster), but as my income increase, I want to buy a better...everything! (beginning with a better propulsion system)

Any advice or commentary?

Thanks!

it does that literally all the time, I ctrl+a, ctrl+c all my posts out of habit now, of course the rare times I forget are the most likely times the forum eats the post. Good thing the new forums don't seem to do that.


most of my ships use a few faction damage mods and a cheap pith booster. These are really the main things to go bling on. Faction damage mods use way less CPU and give more damage so they are my main priority, and then the pith boosters were mostly in the 30-50mil range so they are pretty cost effective and a good way to get more boost for the same cap. And if you armor tank Imperial Navy ENAMs are pretty cost effective around 30mil each, and faction Large armor reps are historically cheap since AARs came into play. And if you use specific hardeners you can typically pick up deadspace for fairly cheap.

Faction afterburners are pretty cheap, and looks like a few faction MWDs aren't too expensive either. I looted a shadow 500mn MWD a while back and it was pretty cheap so I used it rather than selling it, but most of my ships have meta mwds. don't really need to pimp there but cheap enough it won't really draw attention. A while back RF 100mn ABs were pretty standard bling for many mission ships, looks like you can pick up a domination for even less.

those are the main places I use faction stuff, and most of my fits don't get too expensive. In big mission hubs less is better. 2 faction damage mods, faction booster or rep+EANMs, and a faction prop mod and you are looking at ~300mil in loot which is rather low for gankers. a third damage mod would keep you under 400mil, and I typically use three. I'd say 500mil is my cut off. This is with faction BS/Marauder EHP levels. This leaves some room for some cheap faction utility mods.

Things I would avoid:
Faction tracking comps get pretty expensive and don't give enough boost that I would use them for missions, but they seem pretty standard for incursion fits. Same with faction/deadspace invluns, they get super expensive for a solo mission boat, but are popular in incursion groups. Gist shield boosters also get into the silly expensive territory. Faction sensor boosters seem to have dropped a bunch in cost. Faction guns don't really give enough benefit to be worth it imo, that might get changed soon™ when they do tiericide to guns. With guns they do a bit less damage but use less fittings and cap, and with launchers they have better rate of fire, but can't use t2 ammo, and you will want to use fury ammo. and 30-50mil per mod isn't too expensive but when you need to fit 8 it gets to be more expensive than it is worth imo.

There is no such thing as too much bling.

And I mean that seriously, fly what you want, use all appropriate precautions and to hell with what others say you should or should not do. One of my mission characters occasionally flies a Golem worth more than 6 billion ISK and I enjoy it because there is nothing better than grossly overpowered ships when you want to crush some rats at the end of a bad day. Gank magnet some say and there is a degree of truth to that, but with that bling brings more EHP and more tank DPS. Yes you are a more attractive target because of the value of the potential drops when/ if you blow up, however they have to bring significantly more ISK worth of ships to the party to try and blow you up so it tends to balance out in the long run. And remember you do not have to kill those who attack you in high sec, you only have to survive 20 to 30 seconds until Concord ends their party.

To be honest and completely serious this is a game and nothing that happens in it affects you in your real life so do what you want to do. If you are not comfortable flying blinged out ships then do not fly them the stress and worry over losing it would take all of the fun out of the game. On the other hand if you are like me and enjoy the grossly overpowered nature of things then go for it, add all the bling you want, use proper precautions and simply accept that sooner or later you will have to replace the ship.

Thanks for the help, that's a lot of useful tips!

I only have two faction / deadspace mods on my fit, but this game makes me paranoid beyond sanity.

Deadspace tank modules are usually good. They put up the price but also increase the tank. Note sometimes the A-Type and X-Type modules.can be cheaper than B-Type, because people farm them in null. Factional tank modules are usually the same as T2 ones, just costing less fitting resources. Exception is the factional EANMs, which is also pretty cheap (30mil), and passive hp-increase module, which you probably wont use in missions, and the syndicate DCU, which is very expensive and not a great boost.
Deadspace and factional props are pretty good, but can also be expensive. I dont know about the AB, but for MWD, I recommend the Gist X-Type 500MN one, great boost, about 100mil and NO CAP PENALTY!
Factional damage upgrades are good, but after 2 the difference would be very small.
RF target painter is relatively cheap, but I dont know how big the difference is.
Navy ammos, drones and cap charges are cheap and widely used.

P.S. Some of the cheap (<5mil) "bling" modules I know: pirate armor hardeners, dark blood large nos, A-Type passive armor non-adaptive resists, domination EM shield hardener (worse than T2), pirate thermal, kinetic, exp shield hardeners, C-Type thermal, kinetic, exp shield amplifiers.

Well for myself i use a "cheap" full tec 2 typhoon setup with 1-2 faction modules and a cheap X armor rep and i dont seem to meet too much trouble

Thank you all for your replies, that's a lot of good advices.

My problem comes from the lack of PVP experience and forum-induced paranoia

And the fact that I have little understanding of market prices: 100 millions for a mod sounds expansive, but you can make that in 3 hours cleaning missions, or one lucky drone escalation.

I'm playing safe (never afk, watching local for gankers and checking names on killboard), but I wouldn't know what to do if I was warp scrambled in my mission pocket. So, I'll stay 80% T2 until I have a better understanding of pvp and only bling tank a bit.

@ Alasdan Helminthauge
Sorry, I meant: "if some gankers scan me down and scramble me in my mission pocket".

As the saying goes, it's only paranoia if you are wrong.

Never the case in EVE.

I had 2.5bil Shield Vargur fit and peps tried to gank my two times. XtraBling=XtraEHP. The first time the gankers got through my shields but I survived to be ganked another day. Added some more bling and the second time, in bastion mode I just overheated all things and watched glorious explosions all around me. It was a good day.

They will blow me to space bits eventually, thou. Just having fun while I can.