Warfare & Tactics

Getting titan bridged is annoying, but it's usually not too hard to avoid in a decent ship. Just burn away when the cyno pops, it's not like the cyno pilot can chase you to keep the point on you.

Anyway, half the fun in eve is trying to blob people whilst not getting blobbed yourself. As for those that blob not being good solo, I wouldn't be so sure. Just because people like to blob doesn't necessarily mean they're bad at soloing if they have to.

You're quite right. It was a 'Hmmm.... What If?' idea.

I should probably keep those to myself.

To be honest, the whole nerf high sec thing isn't about forcing bears into low. We know they won't come anyway, those that are willing to risk their ships for more ISK are here already.

The problem is two fold, for one thing we want a reason to be where we are. I mean, what is the point in fighting over territory or risking your ship when what you are fighting for is no longer of value? This is the way Eve has always been, null>low>high in terms of profitability. It is the reason we fight, the reason we fly around low sec and scout so obsessively or wage wars over entire regions in null. To have a high ISK income source given out for free, with no risks required in acquiring it just takes away the fun.

The other side is that of people using assets gained through high sec activities to finance ships and wars that are not used in high sec. This means you cannot attack an enemy alliance's profit stream, and whilst it isn't usually much of an issue when that profit can amount to billions a day per person it becomes less comical. (Ok, not many people make billions a day in HS. But it's not that hard, I know a lot of people who dual box incursions and I presume it isn't particularly rare. I might be wrong though.)

tl;dr: We aren't trying to drag carebears kicking and screaming into low sec. For the most part, we don't care about the genuine HS carebears at all.

I have no problem with the amount of damage gate guns do now. I still get fights on gates all the time when someone chooses to engage me first.

I would like the lock time of gate guns to be put back to what it was before they buffed it. Currently its a giant pain to fly lightly tanked frigs because you will get popped on gates before you can warp off. After fights now I usually have to warp to a deep and sit around for 15 minutes before I can continue playing.

If they gate guns took a couple of seconds to lock me it wouldn't effect my ability to fight on gates but it would take most of the down time out of solo roaming.

I agree frequent quality small scale pvp should be a priority for low sec generally and fw in particular.

BTW you can use fw plexes to help you get decent fights in low sec. Just open them in a busy system and don't actually run them.(move away from the button) That way the rats won't attack you and you can fight others as they come in.

Can you do this even though you're not enrolled in FW?

im with smo

If they are already open you certainly can.

But I'm not sure if you can scan them. Just hit your on ship system scanner and see if some pop up. The busier the system the better.

This kind of boils down to "I want to be invincible". In a frigate that costs a few million. Seriously?

If you want that, fly a covert ops and hope you don't run in to a camp spiked with drones/cans.

There are plenty of great ideas here to increase activity/traffic in low sec. I like lady spanks idea.

But the real problem is not the content in low sec but the residents. It has become a gankers haven.

Most low sec pirates are not looking for real PVP but just looking for victims. That is not PVP it is ganking. Most low sec pirates only start fights they know they can win. Why do you think there are so few pirates in the low sec systems that are part of the pipes to null sec. They do not want to fight people that know how to fight back.

These are the same type players that run around the PVP servers in other MMO's Ganking players 10-15 levels below them.

There is no fun for a carebear or new player to try to learn to PVP if every time they jump into low sec they get annihilated by a gang 5 times the size it would need to be to guarantee victory.

All you are doing is teaching these players to stay clear of those systems. No amount of content is going to get players into low sec if they can not play that content without getting ganked. Low sec is supposed to be dangerous, but not a guaranteed suicide run.

Adding content that will force carebears into low sec will not work. Carebears will quite the game before they will partake in forced content that forces them to become the victims of gankers with no chance of survival.

If you want victims then you need to stick to low sec systems on major pipes into low sec. But then you will be fighting experienced null sec players that will possibly kick your a$$.

There is nothing sadder than a self proclaimed PVPer complaining about a lack of PVP content when the only PVP they are actually interested in is ganking carebears. There is no real skill involved in ganking. it is just what really bad PVPers do to make them selves feel like they are urber PVPers.

When I was living in null our alliance made sure the pipes to high sec where not settled by pirates. Any pirates that came in got a good fight. Had some great PVP with kills and loses on both sides. but the pirates would never stay because fighting null sec PVPers was never a guaranteed win.

If you really want PVP, then stop ganking, and learn to play in a way that is fun for both sides of the battle. If you insist on ganking rather than looking for real fights, than the only possible outcome is that your victims will learn to avoid you and you will soon run out of targets. This is what has happened in most low sec systems. It is not CCP that has ruined low sec, it is the fact that 90% of the PVP in low sec is so one sided that the victims have no chance of even having an enjoyable fight let alone any chance of getting a kill themselves.

PVP content is made by the players not the developers. They give us the tools, but if the PVP is not enjoyable from both sides the players that are not having fun will not keep returning to content they do not have fun playing. They will either find some other content in the game they can enjoy or quit playing all together.

I for one do frequently travel through low sec. But I have learned to avoid the local gankers as every time I have tried to get a good fight going I end up facing at least 10:1 odds and get annihilated. Why would I keep coming back for PVP if I just get poped and poded without hardly getting a shot off. I will not. I will just avoid the fights. This does not make me a carebear it makes me smart. I am not going to fly around low sec just waiting to get ganked just to give the pirates a target.

I do what I need to do and get out. I really enjoy blowing through gate camps in my DST. the ganker tears in local is always worth a few laughs. "WTF we had 4 points on you how did you warp, you hacker!" Well worth the occasional ship I do lose. I guess the gankers do not realize how easy it is to get a DST with a natural +2 warp strength up to +5 or +6 and still have a BS size tank. These are fights I enjoy. A 5-6 ship gate camp when I have as good of a chance of getting through as they do of killing me is enough of a thrill I do not mind being a target. But if I have no chance of survival I will just avoid you and you will have no targets to gank.

One question though. Do low sec pirates enjoy POS bashing? I am not talking about the big corps with caps but the small gank squads that frequent the NON pipe systems. I am thinking of putting up a large POS in a 0.2 system for moon goo refining. according to my calculations I can lose one every 2 months and still make a profit.