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what happened to eve?

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Ebony Texas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2017-07-10 23:33:46 UTC
I honestly hate what ccp has done to the game..


oh yea.. dear ccp

please give us another 30% plex sale again please Lol
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#22 - 2017-07-11 00:14:04 UTC
TackyTachy1
Doomheim
#23 - 2017-07-11 02:56:17 UTC
The R00k wrote:
people got sick of ccps crap.

SP farming so people got rich without really playing pissed people off.
fozzy sov pissed people off.
citadel spam than made stations and pos and any semblance of taking space worth something. Pissed people off.
Giving sp farmers 100billion isk in free ships pissed people off.
the same ships being used over and over pissed people off.
getting blobbed pissed people off.
blueballing a fleet because 200 titans logged in you can't begin to fight. pissed people off.
having your super nerfed because you make to much isk playing the game. While nothing was done to SP farmers or roch haven smartbombers making 3-100x as much while risking less or not logged on. Pissed people off.
having new faction titans added that reward 1 person for the work of 100. pissed people off.



Never done any of this stuff, the faction thing is just screen clutter, have no idea what it means. I explore, do a bit of ratting in the badlands (null/low), chase exotic ores in wormholes, manufacture then market stuff, Planetary Interaction and do a lot of hi-sec mining when I get so shot to pieces there's nothing left in the hangars to fly. Four years in this beautiful game, yes, it can get to be a pain but that's usually due to me being stupid again. CCP keeps changing stuff but that just means I have to adapt to yet another new twist, not a problem.

Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#24 - 2017-07-11 08:25:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
1) Alphas realized that they were playing a trial.
2) eve is dying. Seriously, game has never been so much stagnated like today.
Thai Mhalbarei
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2017-07-11 08:27:35 UTC
CCP has taken a lot of bad decisions
CCP seems to have a preference for a group of players (it's obvious, come on)
CCP ban hammer will lead them in the wall
I will not be surprised if CCP receive the ban hammer of a country because of their client
Ebony Texas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2017-07-11 15:00:31 UTC
all of this is just "fake news"
you new eden trolls are just the liberated new eden media making up things about this wonderful ccp administration.
everything will be fine.. don't worry.. ccp is bringing players back to the game.. every patch brings in 10k players and 10 out of 10k signing up is a success!Roll
Psyopus
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#27 - 2017-07-11 17:23:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Psyopus
Twisted
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2017-07-11 18:12:34 UTC
The Devils Cousin wrote:
Its a simple thing

Skill injectors

i.e pay to win

buy plex, buy skill injectors, bypass newbie status bling bling ching ching

eve - dead


Roll

Doesn't this necessitate people playing?

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#29 - 2017-07-11 20:40:58 UTC
jin ko82 wrote:
before summer we had like 30k players on at once but now its around 20k. is it just summer or did some **** "rebalance" kill the game?

Look at 30 day game time in PLEX prices.... it's too high, people just stopped playing.

What?
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2017-07-11 20:50:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Spc One wrote:
jin ko82 wrote:
before summer we had like 30k players on at once but now its around 20k. is it just summer or did some **** "rebalance" kill the game?

Look at 30 day game time in PLEX prices.... it's too high, people just stopped playing.

What?


Roll

Really? If you rat for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and make just 30 million/hour you should have way more than enough to PLEX your account.

[My guess nobody will get the point of that comment.]

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Selina Yvormes
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2017-07-12 13:00:11 UTC
The R00k wrote:
people got sick of ccps crap.

SP farming so people got rich without really playing pissed people off.
fozzy sov pissed people off.
citadel spam than made stations and pos and any semblance of taking space worth something. Pissed people off.
Giving sp farmers 100billion isk in free ships pissed people off.
the same ships being used over and over pissed people off.
getting blobbed pissed people off.
blueballing a fleet because 200 titans logged in you can't begin to fight. pissed people off.
having your super nerfed because you make to much isk playing the game. While nothing was done to SP farmers or roch haven smartbombers making 3-100x as much while risking less or not logged on. Pissed people off.
having new faction titans added that reward 1 person for the work of 100. pissed people off.

Having Q&A where the dev team ignores the most asked question about fixing fozzy sov. Pissed people off.


Pandemic Legion pissed people off.
Ebony Texas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2017-07-12 14:00:49 UTC
The R00k wrote:
people got sick of ccps crap.

SP farming so people got rich without really playing pissed people off.
fozzy sov pissed people off.
citadel spam than made stations and pos and any semblance of taking space worth something. Pissed people off.
Giving sp farmers 100billion isk in free ships pissed people off.
the same ships being used over and over pissed people off.
getting blobbed pissed people off.
blueballing a fleet because 200 titans logged in you can't begin to fight. pissed people off.
having your super nerfed because you make to much isk playing the game. While nothing was done to SP farmers or roch haven smartbombers making 3-100x as much while risking less or not logged on. Pissed people off.
having new faction titans added that reward 1 person for the work of 100. pissed people off.

Having Q&A where the dev team ignores the most asked question about fixing fozzy sov. Pissed people off.



I agree with this 1000% and its dead on.

simple put.. the fanboys of ccp has made this game even worse for many players besides themselves.

this will end up being eve's death nail.
The Devils Cousin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2017-07-12 14:13:43 UTC
It's simple

1.5bil for plex now (seriously?)

Skill Injectors - Those of us who had to training learn skills, what a kick in the teeth

Plex - Buying them and now selling for **** tons, jesus

In short

Dey dun ****** up :P

CCP Please Don't Do This..

The Respawn Expansion

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#34 - 2017-07-12 14:18:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
Meh... EVE has been "dying" for years and years now, and it will continue to do so. It's nothing new. Dispite CCPs constant tweaking of the NPE, it never managed to attract new players in any significant number, and the old playerbase is shrinking slowly but steadily. Everybody aside the few, core "fanatics" can see that... but hey, nothing lasts forever.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)

Aurelius Oshidashi
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2017-07-12 14:44:26 UTC
The Devils Cousin wrote:
It's simple

1.5bil for plex now (seriously?)

Skill Injectors - Those of us who had to training learn skills, what a kick in the teeth

Plex - Buying them and now selling for **** tons, jesus

In short

Dey dun ****** up :P


Skill injectors are very expensive. If you have truly played eve, you know its not about how expensive or big of a ship you can fly, but how good you are in piloting it. A kick in the teeth for vets? No way! Vets can destroy more idiots injecting themselves into ships they cant fly. And they have to invest heavily for it.

A high demand for plex means a higher price. Thats how our player driven market works.

In short, youre saying you dont like the mechanics like they always have been. Or its just whines without foundation because somehow your life is so comfortable that you have time to get frustrated over space pixels.
Niagara Femme
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2017-07-12 14:55:51 UTC
No, not at all!

We're getting old with EVE. New generations want more than just a game to aim and shoot. People want immersion, something EVE can not do anymore - it was designed for a particular generation.

EVE needs to broaden its horizons.

Many former players find the game 'repetitive' and it is, in fact. The new ones do not accompany the extremely expensive market of ships, etc. The wars ruin new players who try to make a minimum to stay in the game. The older ones just feel some fun doing wars - but the situation these older ones did 'ISK' in game was different from the current situation.

CCP is not sensitive to this. Never was. CCP needs the new, new ideas - without fear...

It's time to changes...
Railyn Quisqueya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2017-07-12 16:06:36 UTC
The implementation of alpha clones was the last good hope and attempt at halting decreasing numbers. But it was just a temporary solution. The novelty's worn off.

At this rate, Eve is becoming a game only for the hardest of fanboys. And this can be good or bad, depending on who you ask. But whether you agree or disagree with the direction of Eve, what we are seeing is the logical outcome to the decisions that have been made. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
#38 - 2017-07-12 16:53:03 UTC
I think CCP needed a bit more story for early gameplay before they released Alpha clones.

Right now they have the tutorial (with voice acting) that was pretty decent. Then they funnel you to career agents which have missions without voice acting but still have an ordered plot. Then you have the SOE epic arc which is a little harder to find out about but still available.

Then you're kind of left hanging. It becomes create your own content. the missions are random and don't really follow any kind of story.

I think CCP would be wise to add more epic arcs. LOTS more epic arcs. Preferably with voice content. There should be triggers that cause you to get a message in your mail telling you that an agent wants to give start you off on a mission so you don't have to search for them.

The goal with this is to get players to have a goal to work towards early on... getting to the end of the story told by the epic arcs. This would simply provide a longer period of time where they're engaged in the game and exposed to the other more "permanent" parts of eve. They'd also be playing through an enjoyable story while they train skills.

It may be different for others... but for me there was a certain point in the game where I stopped feeling extremely overwhelmed by the game. I think a bit more immersive "hand holding" through epic arcs that teach you the lore while you learn through playing would be good.

This wouldn't fundamentally change the game in any way. It would just give new players more of what they're used to from many other MMO's so they can do that while learning how to adapt to the particularities of EVE.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2017-07-12 16:56:58 UTC
Ebony Texas wrote:
The R00k wrote:
people got sick of ccps crap.

SP farming so people got rich without really playing pissed people off.
fozzy sov pissed people off.
citadel spam than made stations and pos and any semblance of taking space worth something. Pissed people off.
Giving sp farmers 100billion isk in free ships pissed people off.
the same ships being used over and over pissed people off.
getting blobbed pissed people off.
blueballing a fleet because 200 titans logged in you can't begin to fight. pissed people off.
having your super nerfed because you make to much isk playing the game. While nothing was done to SP farmers or roch haven smartbombers making 3-100x as much while risking less or not logged on. Pissed people off.
having new faction titans added that reward 1 person for the work of 100. pissed people off.

Having Q&A where the dev team ignores the most asked question about fixing fozzy sov. Pissed people off.



I agree with this 1000% and its dead on.

simple put.. the fanboys of ccp has made this game even worse for many players besides themselves.

this will end up being eve's death nail.


My take is the average EVE player is a complainer and whiner.

Take Fozzie sov and fatigue. People complained about the big blue donut. So CCP changes sov and jump mechanics and the big blue donut breaks up or is fractured....and yet the typical Eve player whines and cries like a little *****.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Kosoku
3Ra Syndicate
#40 - 2017-07-12 16:57:10 UTC
Plex price is something I've never cared; I've always paid with sub.

Skill injectors, I do frown about. It shouldn't exist.
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