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EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 Deployment Information

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Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-01-24 13:53:10 UTC
DT will be delayed for another 50 minutes due to serious hamster infection. Veterinarians are fixing the issue.

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me
MMXMMX
Destination Fncked
#42 - 2012-01-24 13:53:17 UTC
The dit not nerf the drake Big smile
Clambumper June
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-01-24 13:53:49 UTC
blake lowe wrote:
wow i stayed up for this, ill check on in 20 years time when they might be done post-phoning


If you are angling in the route of rage quitting for delays can I has your stuff? Bear
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-01-24 13:54:08 UTC
Clambumper June wrote:
Everyone gives CCP crap for the fact that once every few months they too get hit by the Microsoft Patch. Patch the server, bounce the server find that Microsoft has patches to their patches, rinse repeat. It's a cluster with multiple nodes so multiply what you do you for you none Mac machine by X and you get the idea of why CCP takes longer than normal.

P.S. As a system becomes more complex the level of testing to reduce defects because longer and longer. There is no way to perform end to end testing and therefore it should always be at the forefront of everyone's mind that any and every product will be delivered with bugs. On that note save the tears for the carebears.


That's why in a working server enviroment, you don't instal each and every single minor update right away., but only after it's been proven to truly be stable. That is, if you wish to run a working server.
Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices
#45 - 2012-01-24 13:54:41 UTC
Clambumper June wrote:
Everyone gives CCP crap for the fact that once every few months they too get hit by the Microsoft Patch. Patch the server, bounce the server find that Microsoft has patches to their patches, rinse repeat. It's a cluster with multiple nodes so multiply what you do you for you none Mac machine by X and you get the idea of why CCP takes longer than normal.

P.S. As a system becomes more complex the level of testing to reduce defects because longer and longer. There is no way to perform end to end testing and therefore it should always be at the forefront of everyone's mind that any and every product will be delivered with bugs. On that note save the tears for the carebears.


This is perfectly fine. What is absolutely not fine, is when CCP says the patch will take 1h, everyone knows (except for CCP) that it'll take at least 3 hours. When CCP says it'll take 6-7h, everyone knows (except for CCP) that it'll take at least 24h, or not 168h (yeah, when you're unable to play properly before the 6th patchday-after-patchady).

It's just the communications. We all know it's a complex system, and thus it needs its time to get up and running smoothly. We also appreciate that CCP wants to minimize the patch window, so we can have less non-play time. But it'd be better to announce the patch interval at a reasonable and more realistic duration, because it always takes a few hour longer than announced. That way, we'd be happier to have TQ back up earlier than expected, and we wouldn't be idling a few hours, waiting for a patch-procedure update every 10 minutes.
The Snowman
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-01-24 13:55:09 UTC
what is a 'static copy' ?
indig0F10w
Weed smokers HQ
#47 - 2012-01-24 13:55:51 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 is currently being deployed. Downtime begins at 11:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 12:00 UTC. For more information about EVE Online: Crucible, please refer to this news item; full patch notes are available here.


CCP why do you do this to yourself every single expansion/patch you try to deploy? It has been said million times and I'm going to say it again. Just say that the DT will last 5 hours, get TQ up in 3 and every single soul in this world will be happy and you will not have every single EVE player waiting to connect and eating your brains out on the forums.

Do you really need this? BTW GJ on the Crucible expansion. Thank you. Ugh
Vjorn Angannon
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#48 - 2012-01-24 13:56:49 UTC
In the patchnotes, under Modules,

"We have added meta level 11, 12 and 13 Invulnerability Fields."
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-01-24 13:57:04 UTC
The Snowman wrote:
what is a 'static copy' ?


Essentially a disk image....but its on a much larger scale.
Daniel Whateley
#50 - 2012-01-24 14:00:39 UTC
Onictus wrote:
The Snowman wrote:
what is a 'static copy' ?


Essentially a disk image....but its on a much larger scale.


so they have to revert something ? :( that doesn't sound good, maybe someone deleted the wrong old files
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-01-24 14:01:00 UTC
Magic Crisp wrote:
. But it'd be better to announce the patch interval at a reasonable and more realistic duration, because it always takes a few hour longer than announced. That way, we'd be happier to have TQ back up earlier than expected, and we wouldn't be idling a few hours, waiting for a patch-procedure update every 10 minutes.


QFT. I don't care whether an update requires 1 hour or 3 hours or 10 hours. But, give me a reasonable time frame to build my expectations. I'm off today and so have planned on playing the game for most of the day when it comes up. Telling me repeatedly it's going to be up in 30 minutes when it's not just pisses me off.

Don't ban me, bro!
The Snowman
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-01-24 14:02:17 UTC
yea does that mean the update has failed and they are reverting back?
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2012-01-24 14:02:56 UTC
I'm going to think preemptively here. Can we go ahead and get an update on the 1410 update telling us why that update is wrong and updating us with another update to update the update?

Don't ban me, bro!
romek mablung
Perkone
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-01-24 14:02:58 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
romek mablung wrote:
What was those rumours about added deadspace modules?What was added?


deadspace invuls


They are by stats between Navy and officers?
Clambumper June
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-01-24 14:03:10 UTC
indig0F10w wrote:
CCP Navigator wrote:
EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 is currently being deployed. Downtime begins at 11:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 12:00 UTC. For more information about EVE Online: Crucible, please refer to this news item; full patch notes are available here.


CCP why do you do this to yourself every single expansion/patch you try to deploy? It has been said million times and I'm going to say it again. Just say that the DT will last 5 hours, get TQ up in 3 and every single soul in this world will be happy and you will not have every single EVE player waiting to connect and eating your brains out on the forums.

Do you really need this? BTW GJ on the Crucible expansion. Thank you. Ugh


I completely agree with you. Scotty's first law of engineering, take the time you think it will take to complete the job and multiple by a factor of 1.5 to ensure that, one you have time to complete the work before the expected timeline, and two to look like the god of engineering on the starship. Most people will tell you this is called under committing and over delivering. No matter how many times this is explained it always feels like it falls on deaf ears.
Blake Lowe
Catgirl Exhibition and Rental Agency
#56 - 2012-01-24 14:04:09 UTC
Clambumper June wrote:
blake lowe wrote:
wow i stayed up for this, ill check on in 20 years time when they might be done post-phoning


If you are angling in the route of rage quitting for delays can I has your stuff? Bear


unfortunately for you i am a fan of EVE so CCP wont be shaking my targeting that easy, but if you like you can add Blake Lowe and i will provide you with some things if you need them, i have a secretive source of heavy income at the moment so i will be able to help.

anyways its 1:03 (2:03) so i hope you dont stall more CCP
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-01-24 14:04:43 UTC
Daniel Whateley wrote:
Onictus wrote:
The Snowman wrote:
what is a 'static copy' ?


Essentially a disk image....but its on a much larger scale.


so they have to revert something ? :( that doesn't sound good, maybe someone deleted the wrong old files



Not it means that something was changed and they are saving the operational copy.
Toto Zinny
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2012-01-24 14:05:37 UTC
Is it done yet? Bear
Clambumper June
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-01-24 14:06:56 UTC
blake lowe wrote:
Clambumper June wrote:
blake lowe wrote:
wow i stayed up for this, ill check on in 20 years time when they might be done post-phoning


If you are angling in the route of rage quitting for delays can I has your stuff? Bear


unfortunately for you i am a fan of EVE so CCP wont be shaking my targeting that easy, but if you like you can add Blake Lowe and i will provide you with some things if you need them, i have a secretive source of heavy income at the moment so i will be able to help.

anyways its 1:03 (2:03) so i hope you dont stall more CCP


Not my flavor of choice.
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#60 - 2012-01-24 14:07:06 UTC
We know that its because of the POS fuel. Every POS is probably offline by now and they are onlining them on by one in GM mode :D

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