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Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#521 - 2017-07-04 20:42:57 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
Dracvlad, why is this so personal for you?

Or it merely a case of "some players like to build things, and some like to tear them down"?



A very good question.


LOL perhaps..., you can have the last LOL if you want Roll


Where you going Drac the fun has just started?


LOL


Ahhhh, glad you see the funny side of it..

Honestly. I was concerned in the thread where you were arguing with 7 people. You seemed stressed. Sorry if I stressed you further with my terse attitude. Stress isn't good for us because we release cortisteroid into our bloodstream which is very poisonous over a long period of time.

Do have a look at the herbal remedies i mentioned earlier they really help with stress in a natural way.

Also accept that people will always have different perspectives, on certain subjects no one is right or wrong, I for example have had a vastly different experience from many others. I've been camped for years, I've been super ganked many times, you name it its happened to me so I adapted and learned to live in Stain alone.

Ask me if cloaky camping in Stain bothers me ill say; "nope, I make sure I'm in a mobile ship and I have an alt scout and I'll just change system and confirm they are infact afk because they havent followed." Ask the next person and they'll say they remain docked until the camper looses interest or they will move out of Stain.

Your view is not the be all and end all, It is just one view based on your experience.

I like understanding other peoples views even if I don't agree with them. many of us are over 30 now and should be able to accept other people will have different views and opinions. If you find yourself in a position where you don't agree then maybe ask them questions about how their view was formed, show some interest....leave the convo with a better feeling than stress and bitterness, try to learn something from an alternative view

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#522 - 2017-07-05 06:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Aaron wrote:
Ahhhh, glad you see the funny side of it..

Honestly. I was concerned in the thread where you were arguing with 7 people. You seemed stressed. Sorry if I stressed you further with my terse attitude. Stress isn't good for us because we release cortisteroid into our bloodstream which is very poisonous over a long period of time.

Do have a look at the herbal remedies i mentioned earlier they really help with stress in a natural way.

Also accept that people will always have different perspectives, on certain subjects no one is right or wrong, I for example have had a vastly different experience from many others. I've been camped for years, I've been super ganked many times, you name it its happened to me so I adapted and learned to live in Stain alone.

Ask me if cloaky camping in Stain bothers me ill say; "nope, I make sure I'm in a mobile ship and I have an alt scout and I'll just change system and confirm they are infact afk because they havent followed." Ask the next person and they'll say they remain docked until the camper looses interest or they will move out of Stain.

Your view is not the be all and end all, It is just one view based on your experience.

I like understanding other peoples views even if I don't agree with them. many of us are over 30 now and should be able to accept other people will have different views and opinions. If you find yourself in a position where you don't agree then maybe ask them questions about how their view was formed, show some interest....leave the convo with a better feeling than stress and bitterness, try to learn something from an alternative view


Roll

Nice try mate but your dig about me being stressed is way out, also your view point that I am incapable of asking questions or seeing it from other peoples perspective. Seeing other peoples perspective is the key point in any debate, because if you are debating in good faith which many on these forums are not you have to find the common ground and seeing the other persons perspective is key. It is standard operating practice for me, in any case you can learn from others and I do.

I would say there are balance issues in some areas in terms of ganking, most notably bumping and loot scooping through a DST to avoid consequences and they would shout loudly I want to end ganking in hisec, that is a lazy cop out by them by the way if you missed it, that would only be the case if they under more challenging game play gave up, and I sort of recognise that because I don't think that the freighter gankers have it in them to chase and catch freighters and gank them, they need to hold them static for long periods of time. The game play is stale as hell and not within the ethos of Eve. But for you that is me having a bad attitude.

So I ask you, who has the bad attitude, the person screaming out that I want to end gankling or me me for wanting a change to make it less of a sure thing which would likely make many of them give up because they are not able to do it efficiently, and I can say that as I have an account with a Miniluv ganking alt, so I can say this from their perspective.

Like I said nice try, the LOL thing did not work and you went back to this line of attack, and it is so easy for me to point out why you are barking at the wrong tree. But I do understand your perspective by the way...

Seing as you mention AFK cloaky camping let me give you an idea about game balance, before we had the watch list and to train up to a covert cyno meant that people did not have clean histories on their cyno alts a lot of the time. This enabled a balance of intel gathering in that I could see when the droppers were logging on or active and I could check the history of the guy in local and see who he was linked too and when he was likely to be active. Now we have no watch list and people can inject their cyno alts so they have no history. What balances off against that loss of intel, nothing, so I merely requested to have an AFK flag after one hour of not being active, the key part is that you have to be around to see that and work out if he is active or not to gain that intel. So is that a bad attitude wanting some intel back to balance out against what is lost. And by the way I do support the removal of the watch list and skill injectors.

The same can be said of wreck EHP, the change in itself is entirely logical and I agree with it, however that the change occurred not long after AG started ganking freighter wrecks was rather interesting as well as the people who were involved which I detailed above in a previous post, there is more to this story too, but the main aspect is that the wreck EHP is a sensible decision, but at the time it was applied it nipped emergent and very effective AG gameplay in the bud. Were you on ganker comms like I was hearing Loyalannon raging after Herzog's alt ganked a freighter wreck, no you were not!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#523 - 2017-07-05 08:14:07 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Aaron wrote:

Lol



Lol



I think you broke Aaron.

BTW I don't like him. Keep breaking him.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#524 - 2017-07-05 09:09:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Aaron wrote:

Lol



Lol



I think you broke Aaron.

BTW I don't like him. Keep breaking him.


He obviously wanted to play by jumping into those threads on me and giving me such touchy feeling classics as you have a bad attitude and you don't understand Eve and basing that on me being competitive with HTFU posters and their normal stock in trade classics like:

"Ganking will always be in this game!!!"

Thrown at me recently by Dom, just came out of him like a technicoloured yawn from deep within him at me for stating that bumping creates stale game play. You know the drill, but to someone like Aaron seeing me laughing at yet another stock in trade misquote designed to change the direction of the debate is having a bad attitude. ShockedRoll

I have merely asked Aaron to not follow me around like that again and am waiting for him to make that promise.

I detailed that his posting history shows that he posted only where I had posted apart from two threads where he effectively said hi guys, as compared to going into major posts on how bad my attitude was and ignoring the subject matter.

Eve has consequences after all... Evil

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#525 - 2017-07-05 10:39:26 UTC
Tldr and LOL.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#526 - 2017-07-05 11:04:27 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Aaron wrote:

Lol



Lol



I think you broke Aaron.

BTW I don't like him. Keep breaking him.


Lol

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

flakeys
Doomheim
#527 - 2017-07-05 14:13:46 UTC
Well golly gosh , an aaron thread and it has dracvlad in it.Well at least you gave up on the idea of creating a hub zero aaron.Not that this venture will be any different , but still it's at least a change in plans.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Baaldor
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#528 - 2017-07-05 14:49:40 UTC
Aaron wrote:


Being NPC will give us some breathing space where we can learn new tactics or learn how to play. The benefits of being NPC are still good, if people take a step back and spend a few months NPC they can look at joining a hisec corp at a later date.


Complete and utter tripe.

The issue is that NPC Bears seem to think they understand the game, and have not a clue how it really works. And they pretend to be barracks lawyers and spew their tripe and the new players are now screwed.

Because some jackass that could not find his/her/it's own ass with both hands is telling the new player base how it works.

They are the reason why your NPC pubbies don't make it long for this game.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#529 - 2017-07-05 16:14:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Aaron wrote:
Tldr and LOL.


Too difficult for your reading and comprehension skills, LOL...

I did not expect you to read it, and even if you did read it you would not understand it, as you have no knowledge of what I am talking about, but if people wanted advice on being cloaked up in Stain you are their man...

As I said you are not a detail man and this proves it.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#530 - 2017-07-05 16:34:18 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Tldr and LOL.


Too difficult for your reading and comprehension skills, LOL...


Lol

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#531 - 2017-07-05 18:16:32 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:

He obviously wanted to play by jumping into those threads on me and giving me such touchy feeling classics as you have a bad attitude and you don't understand Eve and basing that on me being competitive with HTFU posters and their normal stock in trade classics like:

"Ganking will always be in this game!!!"

Thrown at me recently by Dom, just came out of him like a technicoloured yawn from deep within him at me for stating that bumping creates stale game play. You know the drill, but to someone like Aaron seeing me laughing at yet another stock in trade misquote designed to change the direction of the debate is having a bad attitude. ShockedRoll

I have merely asked Aaron to not follow me around like that again and am waiting for him to make that promise.

I detailed that his posting history shows that he posted only where I had posted apart from two threads where he effectively said hi guys, as compared to going into major posts on how bad my attitude was and ignoring the subject matter.

Eve has consequences after all... Evil



What if his constant posting of LOL is being taken the wrong way? Maybe Aaron's husband has him bound up as a gimp with a ball gag, but then he had a stroke or something and can't release him, and poor Aaron is using "speech to text" software but because of the ball gag it's interpreting "help" as "lol".

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#532 - 2017-07-05 18:55:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

He obviously wanted to play by jumping into those threads on me and giving me such touchy feeling classics as you have a bad attitude and you don't understand Eve and basing that on me being competitive with HTFU posters and their normal stock in trade classics like:

"Ganking will always be in this game!!!"

Thrown at me recently by Dom, just came out of him like a technicoloured yawn from deep within him at me for stating that bumping creates stale game play. You know the drill, but to someone like Aaron seeing me laughing at yet another stock in trade misquote designed to change the direction of the debate is having a bad attitude. ShockedRoll

I have merely asked Aaron to not follow me around like that again and am waiting for him to make that promise.

I detailed that his posting history shows that he posted only where I had posted apart from two threads where he effectively said hi guys, as compared to going into major posts on how bad my attitude was and ignoring the subject matter.

Eve has consequences after all... Evil



What if his constant posting of LOL is being taken the wrong way? Maybe Aaron's husband has him bound up as a gimp with a ball gag, but then he had a stroke or something and can't release him, and poor Aaron is using "speech to text" software but because of the ball gag it's interpreting "help" as "lol".


Yeah quite funny, but he had success using this against one of his many enemies from Hub Zero version 1, that person was a bit emo and easy to upset so it worked rather well in getting him really angry, for some odd reason Aaron seems to think it would work with me. All I can say is LOL...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#533 - 2017-07-05 20:43:28 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

He obviously wanted to play by jumping into those threads on me and giving me such touchy feeling classics as you have a bad attitude and you don't understand Eve and basing that on me being competitive with HTFU posters and their normal stock in trade classics like:

"Ganking will always be in this game!!!"

Thrown at me recently by Dom, just came out of him like a technicoloured yawn from deep within him at me for stating that bumping creates stale game play. You know the drill, but to someone like Aaron seeing me laughing at yet another stock in trade misquote designed to change the direction of the debate is having a bad attitude. ShockedRoll

I have merely asked Aaron to not follow me around like that again and am waiting for him to make that promise.

I detailed that his posting history shows that he posted only where I had posted apart from two threads where he effectively said hi guys, as compared to going into major posts on how bad my attitude was and ignoring the subject matter.

Eve has consequences after all... Evil



What if his constant posting of LOL is being taken the wrong way? Maybe Aaron's husband has him bound up as a gimp with a ball gag, but then he had a stroke or something and can't release him, and poor Aaron is using "speech to text" software but because of the ball gag it's interpreting "help" as "lol".



tldr and LOL

/me has headphones on full blast >> George Morrel - Let's Groove

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#534 - 2017-07-05 20:50:37 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

He obviously wanted to play by jumping into those threads on me and giving me such touchy feeling classics as you have a bad attitude and you don't understand Eve and basing that on me being competitive with HTFU posters and their normal stock in trade classics like:

"Ganking will always be in this game!!!"

Thrown at me recently by Dom, just came out of him like a technicoloured yawn from deep within him at me for stating that bumping creates stale game play. You know the drill, but to someone like Aaron seeing me laughing at yet another stock in trade misquote designed to change the direction of the debate is having a bad attitude. ShockedRoll

I have merely asked Aaron to not follow me around like that again and am waiting for him to make that promise.

I detailed that his posting history shows that he posted only where I had posted apart from two threads where he effectively said hi guys, as compared to going into major posts on how bad my attitude was and ignoring the subject matter.

Eve has consequences after all... Evil



What if his constant posting of LOL is being taken the wrong way? Maybe Aaron's husband has him bound up as a gimp with a ball gag, but then he had a stroke or something and can't release him, and poor Aaron is using "speech to text" software but because of the ball gag it's interpreting "help" as "lol".


Yeah quite funny, but he had success using this against one of his many enemies from Hub Zero version 1, that person was a bit emo and easy to upset so it worked rather well in getting him really angry, for some odd reason Aaron seems to think it would work with me. All I can say is LOL...


LOL!

Future Sound Of London - Papa New Guinea

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#535 - 2017-07-06 17:49:50 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

He obviously wanted to play by jumping into those threads on me and giving me such touchy feeling classics as you have a bad attitude and you don't understand Eve and basing that on me being competitive with HTFU posters and their normal stock in trade classics like:

"Ganking will always be in this game!!!"

Thrown at me recently by Dom, just came out of him like a technicoloured yawn from deep within him at me for stating that bumping creates stale game play. You know the drill, but to someone like Aaron seeing me laughing at yet another stock in trade misquote designed to change the direction of the debate is having a bad attitude. ShockedRoll

I have merely asked Aaron to not follow me around like that again and am waiting for him to make that promise.

I detailed that his posting history shows that he posted only where I had posted apart from two threads where he effectively said hi guys, as compared to going into major posts on how bad my attitude was and ignoring the subject matter.

Eve has consequences after all... Evil



What if his constant posting of LOL is being taken the wrong way? Maybe Aaron's husband has him bound up as a gimp with a ball gag, but then he had a stroke or something and can't release him, and poor Aaron is using "speech to text" software but because of the ball gag it's interpreting "help" as "lol".


Yeah quite funny, but he had success using this against one of his many enemies from Hub Zero version 1, that person was a bit emo and easy to upset so it worked rather well in getting him really angry, for some odd reason Aaron seems to think it would work with me. All I can say is LOL...



It only makes me conclude that Aaron has further issues. It would be right to avoid him. Years back I decided on a personal policy of keeping crazy people out of my life, no matter how "cruel" or "insensitive" I might be labelled for such action. Winners only, basically, and having "zero f**ks to give". My life improved 10-fold. Pointless drama and stupidity fell away.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#536 - 2017-07-06 20:09:07 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

He obviously wanted to play by jumping into those threads on me and giving me such touchy feeling classics as you have a bad attitude and you don't understand Eve and basing that on me being competitive with HTFU posters and their normal stock in trade classics like:

"Ganking will always be in this game!!!"

Thrown at me recently by Dom, just came out of him like a technicoloured yawn from deep within him at me for stating that bumping creates stale game play. You know the drill, but to someone like Aaron seeing me laughing at yet another stock in trade misquote designed to change the direction of the debate is having a bad attitude. ShockedRoll

I have merely asked Aaron to not follow me around like that again and am waiting for him to make that promise.

I detailed that his posting history shows that he posted only where I had posted apart from two threads where he effectively said hi guys, as compared to going into major posts on how bad my attitude was and ignoring the subject matter.

Eve has consequences after all... Evil



What if his constant posting of LOL is being taken the wrong way? Maybe Aaron's husband has him bound up as a gimp with a ball gag, but then he had a stroke or something and can't release him, and poor Aaron is using "speech to text" software but because of the ball gag it's interpreting "help" as "lol".


Yeah quite funny, but he had success using this against one of his many enemies from Hub Zero version 1, that person was a bit emo and easy to upset so it worked rather well in getting him really angry, for some odd reason Aaron seems to think it would work with me. All I can say is LOL...



It only makes me conclude that Aaron has further issues. It would be right to avoid him. Years back I decided on a personal policy of keeping crazy people out of my life, no matter how "cruel" or "insensitive" I might be labelled for such action. Winners only, basically, and having "zero f**ks to give". My life improved 10-fold. Pointless drama and stupidity fell away.


This is the problem with you and Drac, everyone you interact with must think the same way as you, if they don't they are hated on and trolled. You both impose your views on others and then get upset when youre rejected.

Youll never accept that the game design does not belong to you and you should take the game for what it is. I've seen how many of the regular forum crowd deal with both of you,


Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#537 - 2017-07-06 21:16:48 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

It only makes me conclude that Aaron has further issues. It would be right to avoid him. Years back I decided on a personal policy of keeping crazy people out of my life, no matter how "cruel" or "insensitive" I might be labelled for such action. Winners only, basically, and having "zero f**ks to give". My life improved 10-fold. Pointless drama and stupidity fell away.


I think you are spot on with this assessment and advice, cheers mate.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#538 - 2017-07-06 23:43:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaron
Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

It only makes me conclude that Aaron has further issues. It would be right to avoid him. Years back I decided on a personal policy of keeping crazy people out of my life, no matter how "cruel" or "insensitive" I might be labelled for such action. Winners only, basically, and having "zero f**ks to give". My life improved 10-fold. Pointless drama and stupidity fell away.


I think you are spot on with this assessment and advice, cheers mate.


Are all of the AG wound up this tight? or is it just you two?

Carry on trolling guys, your posts only serve to confirm exactly what many of the forum crowd think of you.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#539 - 2017-07-07 00:31:29 UTC
Aaron wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

It only makes me conclude that Aaron has further issues. It would be right to avoid him. Years back I decided on a personal policy of keeping crazy people out of my life, no matter how "cruel" or "insensitive" I might be labelled for such action. Winners only, basically, and having "zero f**ks to give". My life improved 10-fold. Pointless drama and stupidity fell away.


I think you are spot on with this assessment and advice, cheers mate.


Are all of the AG wound up this tight? or is it just you two?

Carry on trolling guys, your posts only serve to confirm exactly what many of the forum crowd think of you.



LOL

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#540 - 2017-07-07 03:44:47 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

It only makes me conclude that Aaron has further issues. It would be right to avoid him. Years back I decided on a personal policy of keeping crazy people out of my life, no matter how "cruel" or "insensitive" I might be labelled for such action. Winners only, basically, and having "zero f**ks to give". My life improved 10-fold. Pointless drama and stupidity fell away.


I think you are spot on with this assessment and advice, cheers mate.


Are all of the AG wound up this tight? or is it just you two?

Carry on trolling guys, your posts only serve to confirm exactly what many of the forum crowd think of you.



LOL


tldr

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie