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From CCP: Population Breakdown by security group

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Sicex
#1 - 2012-01-24 11:34:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Sicex
I'm ever the proponent of accurate conjecture which is why I just LOVE the EVE Forums... Roll

As an attempt to inject a tidbit of accurate information into what is usually a trough full of speculation, I have found a very nifty pie chart detailing the active server pop broken down into security groups! It was hiding on CCP Diagoras Twitter page along with lots of other interesting facts continued from his most recent devblog about CONCORD's actions in the past year.

Link: pic.twitter.com/r8lRlvtg

What is shows is that there are a lot less players in High Sec than most speculate (usually referred to in the 80-90% range) and many more players in Null Sec than is usually speculated (around 5-10%).

Edit: BBC forum code was borked so you have to copy/paste the link.
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
#2 - 2012-01-24 11:50:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tres Farmer
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high+low = 74.42% of the population in 1,907 systems (24.77% of systems)
null = 20.07% of population in 42.78% of systems (3,294)
whisky* = 5.51% of population in 32.45% of systems (2,499)

*) mea culpa Oops
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#3 - 2012-01-24 11:52:14 UTC
Tres Farmer wrote:
...

whiskey


is a horrible brew, whisky is nice.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#4 - 2012-01-24 12:03:03 UTC
It does say >5million SP characters; but actually that makes sense. I'm sure there are a lot of hauler and trade alts with less than that, and they don't really count anyway.

Another thing to note, is this image was taken at downtime on one particular day; where I'm sure if you did the same thing and pulled averages over a week the numbers would be different. Still, it's cool and probably relatively accurate.
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Sicex
#5 - 2012-01-24 12:13:52 UTC
Yeah, it may not be a perfectly accurate representation of population sizes but it certainly starts to add some measurements to the fish-size stories out there.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#6 - 2012-01-24 12:19:34 UTC
That graph is likely from average population count per sector for more accurate survey.
Also >5mil filters out everyone less then 2-3months old who would most likely still be learning the game mechanics and thus staying in high sec.
But it's an intersting thing to see that as much as 1/5th of EVE's population live in null sec and that there is almost an equal amount of people living in WH then in low sec currently.
Doris Dents
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-01-24 12:22:16 UTC
I spend 99% of my time in 0.0 but have 2 active characters in highsec. One for PI and another for buying/selling. If you looked at exclusively highsec accounts that never venture into PVP space I suspect the number would be much smaller - maybe even a minority!
Lexmana
#8 - 2012-01-24 12:32:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
Interesting numbers. Only 2/3 of active characters in highsec. But how does that figure relate to the number of EVE players that are highsecbears? I guess it is still an overestimate. Highsecbears seldom or never visit lower sec systems even with their alts but players that are primarily based in null/low/wh probably more often do visit empire and/or have alts active there.
Aineko Macx
#9 - 2012-01-24 12:34:57 UTC
Now if only we could get some stats on how many of those empire chars are actually alts of some 0.0 main...
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-01-24 12:42:48 UTC
Yeah but how many of those characters are alts on the same account? How many of them are actually doing things in space as opposed to just logging in and ship spinning, or Alt+Tabbed sitting at a POS providing ganglinks, or AFK cloaking in a system and making carebears hug their knees, rocking to an fro, crying themselves to sleep while mumbling fervent prayers that CCP nerf cloaking?
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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-01-24 13:42:56 UTC
Sicex wrote:
Yeah, it may not be a perfectly accurate representation of population sizes but it certainly starts to add some measurements to the fish-size stories out there.


You'd need to run numbers at the same time every day for a week and average them... More ideal would be to run them for a month every day at the same time... If you really have a fetish for numbers you'd like to see the monthly average over time since EVE went live.

This would make for outstanding trend analysis and would let you see how these number stack up to what they have been and let you establish goals for shifting the player base to improve player exprience and over all brand loyalty.

Also analysis like this would help you track outliers on things like, but not limited to....
~% of certain ship types active, lost, and the location to help the nerfing/buffing intiatives to achieve better balance in game play
~ISK spent/earned per play hour by individuals based on the sum of their wallet debits and credits over time

The key isn't just collecting one data set, or even one data set over time, its collecting multiple sets of data to draw correlations establish forecast goals and set directions to maximize brand loyalty by making the game balanced, fun, challenging and rewarding. For everyone.

~one thing that really needs looked at is percentage of players who play longer than 3 months versus those that do pay for a month or so but drop out shortly after. EVE has solid curb appeal, but I bet the numbers behind retention within the 1st six months is dismal.

I would love to get my hands on that type of data for serious trend analysis. There is power in knowing that kind of stuff, the list is pretty much endless on what you can analyze using trending over time.

But I'm pretty sure CCP does this already. They would be remiss if they just listened to what we said and the comments by the CSM. We all know humans are selfserving and cannot be trusted.

Data. Never. Lies.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken