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LOOT DROP 10/10 ESCALATIONS

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sayyes cyno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2017-07-01 15:32:31 UTC  |  Edited by: sayyes cyno
Hi.

I thought I had read that the drop rate of pirate BPCS was goanna b nerfed and that the change of getting a high end 10/10 escalation was lowered ....

So BPCS change lowered and change on escalations lowered ?

Did it also say EVERYTHING ELSE that drops also lowered ?

Nothing nothing drops escalation after escalation only the overseer boxes ..so Too make 80 mill when you buy escalations on contract for 130 m ..you Have to spend 45 min doing a 10/10 risking a 2.6 bill ship ..

ccp stop flying your over weighted staff all over the world to party on the eve Vegas thing, and spend the money making the game fun again ...so You don't need to get it from us poor folks in game .....GET A JOB !

largest gathering of EVE pilots and developers outside Iceland! .... outside Iceland!.....outside Iceland!....outside Iceland!
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#2 - 2017-07-01 16:28:15 UTC
Run a hundred sites and make a spreadsheet. Mail me a link to it as I gave up after 5 sites and it's way too low for an average.
Contact the people selling bm's. 130m? dafuq. It was worth 100 a year ago, now probably <80.
Wait till blue loot becomes valuable again, even if it will drop once in a blue moon, it will be worth it.

Idk what rest of the post is about
Nasar Vyron
S0utherN Comfort
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2017-07-01 16:46:20 UTC
sayyes cyno wrote:
Hi.

I thought I had read that the drop rate of pirate BPCS was goanna b nerfed and that the change of getting a high end 10/10 escalation was lowered ....

So BPCS change lowered and change on escalations lowered ?

Did it also say EVERYTHING ELSE that drops also lowered ?


Hasn't happened yet, and be glad. What you are seeing is post-Rhea where drop rates and escalation spawns were literally doubled. Just keep that in mind as to how ridiculous you sound to everyone else who spend years running fewer and getting less.

sayyes cyno wrote:
Nothing nothing drops escalation after escalation only the overseer boxes ..so Too make 80 mill when you buy escalations on contract for 130 m ..you Have to spend 45 min doing a 10/10 risking a 2.6 bill ship ..

ccp stop flying your over weighted staff all over the world to party on the eve Vegas thing, and spend the money making the game fun again ...so You don't need to get it from us poor folks in game .....GET A JOB !

largest gathering of EVE pilots and developers outside Iceland! .... outside Iceland!.....outside Iceland!....outside Iceland!


You and those around you are the ones willing to pay 130m for these sites. CCP has no control over that. Why are you blaming them for you overpaying?

The value of the loot dropped is also set by players. Are you getting mad at them for this being a player driven economy and not just having WoW NPC vendors scattered to buy your loot at a set value?

Are you blaming them for flying an overly blinged ship to complete these sites when a semi-blinged rattlesnake can run them all?

Are you really trying to connect all of this to them having a player gathering in a location outside of Iceland???


Dude, you need to step away from the computer for a moment and go consider your life choices for a while.
sayyes cyno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2017-07-01 17:14:19 UTC  |  Edited by: sayyes cyno
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=521614


Quote:

In June we are starting to address the supply of pirate battleship BPCs, with moderate changes to the chance of escalations spawning from the most popular high-end anomalies and larger changes to the drop rates of the BPCs themselves from quite a few NPCs.



I think he lowered all drop rates ... moderate changes my ass ...ccp whants to get rich fast

What ever they do wif they $ they make off my back ( I cannot plex my account anymore because of lower income ,due to lower drop rates ) is there business .....

But looks like they only take and never give back ..

If you change the rules of the game , give something back so we can make some isk in another way ..



would b really nice if it turns out they only lowered it for some alliance / Regions
Nasar Vyron
S0utherN Comfort
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2017-07-01 17:33:14 UTC
You're missing the point. It's still higher than it was pre-Rhea, this adjustment isn't really even noticeable. My corp has been running a spreadsheet for months, we really haven't noticed a change. Call it luck, but I'm thinking you just don't run that many and have had an unlucky streak. They happen.

They gave a hell of a lot with Rhea, that's why deadspace mods are so damn cheap anymore. They buffed the ever loving hell out of supers/carrier ratting and are still trying to tune them down. They introduced extractors/injectors so now people can get into anything they want when the mood suits them and the money is there.

If you want to blame not being able to plex your accounts, look at the cause. Extractors and SP farms increasing the ever loving hell on plex consumption which has driven the price up. Don't look to adjustments in escalations where everything but the value of the box is driven by players.
sayyes cyno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2017-07-01 17:46:28 UTC  |  Edited by: sayyes cyno
they drop less.and they drop less loot . he lowered the drop rate ..for everything ..where he only speaks of bpc's .. i run alot of them ..alot


drop a link for that spread sheet pls ...so we all can see how it is changed or not


and maybe ccp should do that also ..when they change something .. so we can actually see what they change for whome they changed it .. and by what %....

instead of maybe modarate change... modarate compaired too what


here > and maybe instead flying outside iceland spending the $ i need too spent to stay in game ...they could hire a strategy game disigner who looks ahead !!
sayyes cyno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2017-07-02 16:56:45 UTC
in almost 24 hours we have run 19 x 10/10 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard


next too the overseers all the loot we have gotten was http://evepraisal.com/a/bz7ae


that 19 x risking a 2.6b ship



and this been going on and on
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#8 - 2017-07-02 17:23:39 UTC
Op, you are 100% correct!

This is outrageous!

This is too far!

Can I have your stuff, please?


sayyes cyno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2017-07-02 18:36:53 UTC  |  Edited by: sayyes cyno
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Op, you are 100% correct!

This is outrageous!







yes it is .....19 hours 300 mill and a bpc 10 of them dropped 0

these are 10/10 's high end escalations ?
Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2017-07-02 18:55:02 UTC
sayyes cyno wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=521614


Quote:

In June we are starting to address the supply of pirate battleship BPCs, with moderate changes to the chance of escalations spawning from the most popular high-end anomalies and larger changes to the drop rates of the BPCs themselves from quite a few NPCs.



I think he lowered all drop rates ... moderate changes my ass ...ccp whants to get rich fast

What ever they do wif they $ they make off my back ( I cannot plex my account anymore because of lower income ,due to lower drop rates ) is there business .....

But looks like they only take and never give back ..

If you change the rules of the game , give something back so we can make some isk in another way ..



would b really nice if it turns out they only lowered it for some alliance / Regions

How are they making money off your back? They actually get more money when you PLEX as opposed to when you buy a sub.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2017-07-02 20:37:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Coralas
sayyes cyno wrote:
in almost 24 hours we have run 19 x 10/10 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard


next too the overseers all the loot we have gotten was http://evepraisal.com/a/bz7ae


that 19 x risking a 2.6b ship



and this been going on and on


(a) Its always been possible to get long streaks of no loot.

(b) the nerf was aimed at you and your group if you are producing a ded 10 escalation an hour under the revised escalation rate. Its a bit silly to just be able to run nothing but ded 10s all day.

(c) its not necessary to risk 2.6b to do a ded 10, thats something you choose to do.

(d) it may be possible that angels were nerfed more than other races.

(e) the only way to recover value for the loot is to reduce the drop rate. The loot was all trending to have no value.

(f) I got a vindicator bpc and an x-type module in the first ded 10 I did after the patch.
sayyes cyno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2017-07-03 02:44:25 UTC  |  Edited by: sayyes cyno
Quote:
(b) the nerf was aimed at you and your group if you are producing a ded 10 escalation an hour under the revised escalation rate.



where did you find this ?

how that works ?
Ded Akara
Doomheim
#13 - 2017-07-04 08:41:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Ded Akara
Didn't players used to fight over 10/10 ded's?

These days it seems they hand you 20 a day. No competition necessary.
sayyes cyno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2017-07-04 09:08:14 UTC  |  Edited by: sayyes cyno
the escalation it self drop lesss isk then ratting the heavens so they put them on contract ...


130 for every escalation that drops ...nice ( 130mill ticks wif nyx ? )
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#15 - 2017-07-04 10:05:40 UTC
sayyes cyno wrote:

Nothing nothing drops escalation after escalation only the overseer boxes ..so Too make 80 mill when you buy escalations on contract for 130 m ..you Have to spend 45 min doing a 10/10 risking a 2.6 bill ship ..

well its your fault paying 130m for a worthless bookmark. Only yours.

sayyes cyno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2017-07-04 11:07:32 UTC  |  Edited by: sayyes cyno
YES IT I

wasnt it that if the loot drop hadnt changed dramaticly ( only for the bpc's) then there wouldnt b a problem ..)

thats what this forum post is about !


Quote:
Patch notes for June 2017 release
Exploration:

The chance of obtaining a random escalation from certain high-level combat anomalies has been reduced somewhat.
The drop rate of pirate faction battleship blueprints has been reduced across several NPCs.




not the bpc's are lowered AND EVERYTHING ELSe that drops a side of them also !
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#17 - 2017-07-04 13:59:34 UTC
sayyes cyno wrote:
bpc's are lowered AND EVERYTHING ELSe!
PoSsiBly a bug. Or a feature.

I remember doing 1 to 4 8/10 or 10/10's a month, and the loot was worth so much one lucky site was worth 3-4 plex. Nowdays the best possible drop in a 10/10 is 30% of a monthly sub* (20% if you paid for the bm).
Not worth the time or risking a marauder.

*thanks to OP running 10 10/10's a day and people boxing carriers, getting multiple bookmarks per hour
sayyes cyno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2017-07-05 07:34:42 UTC  |  Edited by: sayyes cyno
this if from the second 20 escalations we run http://evepraisal.com/a/c006g


so after 40 hours FOURTY!!!!! that is a full week working .....we made >> 850 m isk

1st 20 http://evepraisal.com/a/c006g
2th 20 http://evepraisal.com/a/bz7ae




one guy tells me ..he has sheets wif over 100 escaltions and there drop data .. but hasnt produced such a sheet .

another tells me ... the nerf was aimed at you and your group if you are producing a ded 10 escalation an hour under the revised escalation rate... but failed to comupp wif the reource he got that info from


PoSsiBly a bug. Or a feature.

Its a scam ! letting you all ..pay more for the same !!
Mision Realizado
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2017-07-05 07:52:30 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:

This is too far!
Can I have your stuff, please?


You've been posting this same thing in multiple threads, this isn't Jita local. What?


OP, try to recalc with the escalation as a bonus round to the existing ratting site that first spawned it. The randomness of loot drop cannot be gauged as closely as the ticks from running actual combat sites.
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#20 - 2017-07-05 09:10:08 UTC
You forgot to include the boxes and bounties in calculations but it looks like the loot is abysmal indeed. It got nerfed 10x, not 10%.
If CCP's aim is to make x-types worth more then officer loot, they succeeded xD
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