Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Negative Ghost-rider. Its the sizes that matter and which structure serves which purpose.
Fortizars= EvE b4 Keepstars

I understand that Keepstars are expensive but you can at least be tethered to any* structure in your Super. Perhaps a smaller ask would be more reasonable? Can you access your stuff from a Fortizar? Would it help if you could or use the fitting? Just some thoughts.

Yes, they can fit a super capital ship assembly array which is why I suggested a smaller ask.<---mY bAD negative)

A better solution i think would be service module that allows Supers and Titans to dock externally with the Fortizar with a smaller version for the Astrahaus' for taking Carriers and Rorquals.

Basically, your Super would gain access to the Fortizar as though it was docked, but remain locked in place (No bumping off) and tethered in space. Perhaps a limit to the number of supported Supers? {Docking request denied, no berths available}
Would allow you to reship, refit etc. With the caveat that the super remains visibly in space, though unable to be attacked directly.

What would the benefits be? Simple, smaller entities that can afford these capitals but cannot afford a Keepstar can "dock" their ships and be reasonably safe.
For those living in Wormholes, a Keepstar may not be a viable option in the first place. (As i understand it, you can build capitals in Wormholes, but cant fit the hulls through a Wormhole. I could be wrong)
A hostile entity will be able to see exactly how many Supers and Titans are "docked" at a given Fortizar and can attack it in the hopes of scoring kills on those ships by eliminating the Fortizar.
Or maybe the owners of the Fortizar forgot to refuel that day and .. Ohnoes, all those poor capitals are just floating in space waiting to be destroyed by an observant hostile.

Content generation. Not to mention that PoS' currently allow smaller entities to keep their supers more secure, but we wont have PoS' in the near future, so an alternative is required, particularly for Wormholers.

Thank you surrender monkey. We all learned something.

A:|> Before Keepstars, that was the Cost of having the big ship. Those has been the deal since Super Capitals were introduced in 2005. Plenty of playtime and pilots dealt with having two accounts.
B:|>...Yeah supers are expensive and CCP offers no account discounts for being one of the cool kids. YOu may want' to put it to work or get a Rorqual too.
C:|>Blue up...recruit, or join a keepstar owning alliance?
D:|>Large are still outpost's still has not Super parking.
E;|>Awesome..you can trade your supercarrier/Titan for a dozen or so Carriers/Drednaughts and they will fit in your Fortizar. Plus you no longer have a the expense of flying what you can't afford to USE / lose.

o7

So you're saying that supercap proliferation should actually be curtailed, instead of accommodated. Sounds good!



You don't have to. Nobody held a gun to your head and made you fly a supercap you can't afford to park.



lolwat. I think we have that many in Deklein alone. Last I checked there are a few public ones as well (Aunenen? Maila?). Can't imagine how many Delve has. HK had two on the same grid, last I heard.

This is just an argument for living within your means.



Fortizars are cheap enough that people throw them down on a lark. They cost less than an SC hull. Nope.



Pretty much anything that stops plebes who can't really afford supers from having supers is okay by me.

1. Not everyone has, or even wants, a super.

2. If you do want a super, how you're going to park the thing is a question you should address before committing to buying a super. I have numerous keepstars available to me. You, apparently, do not. This is a personal problem, and it's up to you to deal with it. If that's such an overwhelming problem for you, perhaps you should sell your super and fly a ship that's a little more suitable for your limited resources.

You bought a sport car but didn't think about where you would park it during winter. That's your own damn fault.

If you are not happy about the "upkeep" requirement of your super, just sell the damn thing.

if you can afford to have super caps, you can afford to pool resources for the base.