EVE General Discussion

I propose to reduce the extraction of ore mining barge, to reduce production and in the fight against bots.

I do not think that this will work out, the computer will have more problems and the bot will not be able to pay for itself by plex

Gee, the amount of content in that OP is staggering. I think it might be a little too much information and detail, really.

Wrong. With skill extractors I could mine 0 ore with an account and it would still PLEX itself. Botter's income goes down by 10% -> botter makes 10% more bots.

Mining should be a less AFK active. I think it should be more like PI, with hotspots and dead spots and you have to adjust the lasers from time to time to get better yields. I sometimes go AFK in the middle of a cycle myself because there is nothing happening.

Yes! Let's completely change a well liked game system and see more players who enjoyed that activity leave the game.

I mine because I enjoy that it's less intense than killing stuff and doesn't require my full and constant attention. I have a family and kids around and I can't do something that requires my attention all of the time, so mining works out just perfect for me. It's not as attention requiring as say running missions and that's why I choose to mine rather than run missions. If I need to leave the screen for 5 minutes I can do without losing out.

The people asking for mining to be made into something more intense just don't like seeing others play the game in a way they don't approve off - so they want to kill off that style of gameplay, and to hell with it if causes players to quit; they shouldn't have been playing EVE anyway (That's how they see it.)

The amount of game time which at keyboard miners need to spend is already excessive. Increasing this even further is borderline loonacy. Mining is already gimped with other gameplay aspects to the point where most PvP players will forgo this gameplay element entierly.

Yet people love to hate miners, and will spare nothing to screw them over at every opportunity. As if the issues with ganking and pirate ambushes are not enough. You're trying to screw them over on the balance forums as well. Mining and Industry are fast becoming the wayside gameplay elements, and there is just little incentive to do these things. They are non-engaging gameplay - and infact it's more like work that play.

Mining is already a time consuming chore, and it's rather a poor trade on the risk vs. reward spectrum. So lets not make it any worse than it already is. Otherwise, people will just not mine. The market will become under supplied, and you will not have the ships you need for PvP.

Haaaaaaang on just a second.. Is this a stealth "hur hur, recent carrier change was naff idea" thread?


Yes it's nasty isn't it. The big bad PvP heads want you to actually play the game, sat right there at your computer They just don't understand industrialists do they..

No one will miss 'em. Let's hope some other people will take their place and actually add something to EvE.

For those who wanna make currency while he play with kids there are a lot of games on Facebook.


...watch the wreck of your MTU, get frustrated, log off.

Where it up to me™, no player would mine or haul again.

Every mining and commerce-related vessel would be NPC controlled, and players would buy, equip, and staff them. Then send the ships out to gather stuff.
(There was a very popular video game, one of the first of the greats and I forget the name, where you did this with animal-like robots in the wild).

All of these mining vessels would be openly attackable, anywhere any time, with not much more happening than a suspect flag.


Players owning the "interest" or assets would have to defend them.

Thus every player would be a combat player to some extent.

(cue the autistic screeching from the usual HTFU crowd who can't live without helpless victims to hate)


But it's just my idea and nothing is going to change. Calm down gankers.