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Archetype

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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#1 - 2017-06-23 19:52:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol epoch
Now here is the thing I do not understand! With a perfectly good alliance name and logo (Archetype) why would certain people abandon it and join another group?

I have a theory but it interests me to see the responses to the question above!
renwahh
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2017-06-23 20:53:13 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Now here is the thing I do not understand! With a perfectly good alliance name and logo (Archetype) why would certain people abandon it and join another group?

I have a theory but it interests me to see the responses to the question above!



Because they didn't actually get a pair and hunt VMG no matter what the loss count was
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2017-06-23 21:04:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Saeger1737
I think the people who said they wanted to be leadership didn't really want to be leadership and now they in a new alliance.... Not going to name names...

And Loreth was a great leader just Real life had to come first... And that's completely understandable.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#4 - 2017-06-24 08:25:32 UTC
Seems a mutual friend is keeping the Archie name alive.

Did I mention he was a hella gud player. One of the many talented young guns pisssed off by Tora's old management style.


Big reveal, yes xXDewayneXx is using the old Archie name. ( instead of studying for his final years schooling Pirate)






SmileSmileSmile
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)

Erin Davis
Sblo Panala Corporation
#5 - 2017-06-24 22:21:29 UTC
Because the other group is a good fit with decent people. Plus Atype is still enzees and zero's honestly, so we left it to them whenever they do decide to return.

In the mean time, we let dewayne have his way with it, because why not?
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#6 - 2017-06-25 03:27:45 UTC
Nah Dewayne has standards. You lost yours on joining that other alliance.Blink
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)

gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2017-06-25 10:35:31 UTC
Awho?
Erin Davis
Sblo Panala Corporation
#8 - 2017-06-25 11:22:47 UTC
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Nah Dewayne has standards. You lost yours on joining that other alliance.Blink


Aww, wittle baby is mad other people have different groups of friends.
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#9 - 2017-06-25 13:11:23 UTC
Erin Davis wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Nah Dewayne has standards. You lost yours on joining that other alliance.Blink


Aww, wittle baby is mad other people have different groups of friends.



Seriously, who would want to be friends with a person who writes like a 7yr old girl. What? And if you are not a preteen girl n act like one you are just creepy.Ugh
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)

Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#10 - 2017-06-25 20:07:54 UTC
Sol.. there are reasons for everything whether you understand them or not.

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#11 - 2017-06-25 20:12:14 UTC
..and Renwahh..we did fight..well, some of us did. Most of us just want to play the game without having to hold hands and spend all of our time online doing Alliance leadership bs. It's nice to be able to log on, get into some action if so desired, and enjoy the game for a change.

I see Vipsan and his quest for relevance has followed to this thread as well..how quaint. Maybe one day, when he's a big boy, will his opinion matter. One can hope. Roll

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#12 - 2017-06-25 20:18:02 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Sol.. there are reasons for everything whether you understand them or not.



Less preaching Kaely as I am not one of your students!

You answered the question with appropriate expression in your next post, Thank you
Erin Davis
Sblo Panala Corporation
#13 - 2017-06-25 20:21:36 UTC
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Erin Davis wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Nah Dewayne has standards. You lost yours on joining that other alliance.Blink


Aww, wittle baby is mad other people have different groups of friends.



Seriously, who would want to be friends with a person who writes like a 7yr old girl. What? And if you are not a preteen girl n act like one you are just creepy.Ugh


Maybe I am a 16 year old girl. Or guy. Or apache helicopter. Did you just assume my gender?
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#14 - 2017-06-25 20:33:11 UTC
Erin Davis wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Erin Davis wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Nah Dewayne has standards. You lost yours on joining that other alliance.Blink


Aww, wittle baby is mad other people have different groups of friends.



Seriously, who would want to be friends with a person who writes like a 7yr old girl. What? And if you are not a preteen girl n act like one you are just creepy.Ugh


Maybe I am a 16 year old girl. Or guy. Or apache helicopter. Did you just assume my gender?


I have to agree that your previous post was rather childish.

Oh! and don't flatter yourself as Apache helicopters are rather good!
Erin Davis
Sblo Panala Corporation
#15 - 2017-06-25 21:18:12 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Erin Davis wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Erin Davis wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Nah Dewayne has standards. You lost yours on joining that other alliance.Blink


Aww, wittle baby is mad other people have different groups of friends.



Seriously, who would want to be friends with a person who writes like a 7yr old girl. What? And if you are not a preteen girl n act like one you are just creepy.Ugh


Maybe I am a 16 year old girl. Or guy. Or apache helicopter. Did you just assume my gender?


I have to agree that your previous post was rather childish.

Oh! and don't flatter yourself as Apache helicopters are rather good!


Would that make you a sikorsky? Sikorskys are like the dinkleburgs of the helicopter world.
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#16 - 2017-06-25 22:18:29 UTC
That is no way to talk about an American company seeing as your military love them!
Erin Davis
Sblo Panala Corporation
#17 - 2017-06-26 01:57:45 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
That is no way to talk about an American company seeing as your military love them!


Now you know why Timmys dad hates dinkleburg.
Valkin Mordirc
#18 - 2017-06-26 05:02:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkin Mordirc
gnshadowninja wrote:
Awho?


God bless you


That logo is pretty baller...


Also drama feed is a drama feed
#DeleteTheWeak
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#19 - 2017-06-26 06:36:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Vipsan Agrippa
Sol epoch wrote:
Erin Davis wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Erin Davis wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Nah Dewayne has standards. You lost yours on joining that other alliance.Blink


Aww, wittle baby is mad other people have different groups of friends.



Seriously, who would want to be friends with a person who writes like a 7yr old girl. What? And if you are not a preteen girl n act like one you are just creepy.Ugh


Maybe I am a 16 year old girl. Or guy. Or apache helicopter. Did you just assume my gender?


I have to agree that your previous post was rather childish.

Oh! and don't flatter yourself as Apache helicopters are rather good!



True story ( nose will not grow ):

Flew in a Bell Huey on OPs OS, told the NZ pilot on the headset these helos were museum pieces back home, Kiwi pilot did not like the joke and banked hard, no side doors all air. ( he had the last laugh ) Blink
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)

Rias Bane
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2017-06-26 08:31:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Rias Bane
I was never in A-Type but during periods in FA and in CD I can say I had limited interactions with the alliance so my perspective on your question is purely objective.

When one considers the question of why do you leave an alliance it's too open ended as some will leave because of the "Grass being Greener" concept but mostly, people leave due to leadership, please understand this isn't in any way a "dig" or "shot" as simply put; my interactions with you and your former alliance were in essence limited and in the main positive.

To add context to my point, there is an expression which is sometimes used in workplace leadership which is that "People don't quit jobs, they quit bosses"

During my periods of leadership; I can say that when I reflect on them, the players and pilots that left; in some cases left because of my actions, I accept that these were in some cases failures on my part but essentially they were failures of the leadership as a whole and I carry a weight from that.

Personality clashes, moving to join friends, wanting more of something specific...there are so many potential reasons But I would stress that I would never stay in or join an alliance based on them having a cool name or a cool logo, I have never considered these to be influencing factors for me and am a little confused as to why you lead with them as your question, possibly if you reflect on this aspect of your question it may highlight that as a leader that possibly your focus may have been misdirected on to what could be considered a superficial element of the alliance when more fundamental functional elements needed to be prioritised, please accept that as a constructive statement and not an insult.

If you have asked the question so as to better learn from and reflect upon the ending of a former period for you in game then I truly hope that you get the enlightenment that you seek from it and hope it makes you better as a player and leader in and out of game. I do also hope that raw wounds that seem to still be there for so many do not entirely derail your topic, the ending of an alliance can lead to a great deal of hostility. I know I have fallen foul of that and I accept that I blamed others for events that were not their fault and I have made piece with that personally so I hope the same can happen for all former A-Type members regardless of where they call home.

Regards,

RB