Intergalactic Summit

Alpha capable Minmatar ship.

My dragoon and I look forward to meeting swarms of Alpha pilots.

Silly obtuse old Fedo. The dragoon is an amarr destroyer, a model of ship, I like to fly (and which has been in existence through the Empyrean era and before I assume). I can be found in the amarr/matari faction warzone, usually in a small plex with it. if you undocked every now and then, maybe you'd know all this?

I dunno. *shruggles* Seems a lotta text to waste to ask that. But if he wanted t' derail his own thread, fine by me!

My dragoons better, I sold it and bought an algos. Also, if its the fit im thinking of id love to see a dragoon take on five or six of thrm.

Uh ... I don't know if you'd specified "cruisers," earlier, Mr. Ronin. Anyway cruisers actually have slightly limited utility in the warzone, first because of the swarms of smaller ships that make basically anything but a destroyer-fit cruiser impractical, but also because they only fit into about half the plexes. This limits their applicability compared to basic destroyers (75%) or frigates (100%).

(Also, yes, I gather she's pretty good.)

I never specified ship type beyond "Alpha" accessibility. I find it hard to believe one Destroyer could survive swarms of alpha ships, all egos aside, at some point their combined dps surpasses what any solo destroyer can withstand.

The drones give additional firepower but against a swarm of twenty, thirty, forty, or fifty ships how long would they last?

Not to even mention the logi capabilities of the attacking swarm or their drones all targeting the solo doomed Dragoon Destroyer. A solo ship against a swarm of alpha piloted ships would perish, not even Titans take the field without support.

Kiss ass as much as you decide is appropriate but no one is "good" enough to defeat math.

The solo Dragoon Destroyer against a swarm of alpha piloted ships is toast, not without exacting a few kills possibly, but they would not be going home except by pod express. To think otherwise is childishly foolish.

Right on cue a foolish child appears, lol. (the commentary above)

What does a solo ship kite?
To whom does a solo ship give a command burst?
What hard wire implants make you invulnerable?
How much dps does it take to "alpha strike" a kill on a Dragoon Destroyer?

One Omega piloted Dragoon Destroyer versus swarms of alpha piloted frigates, destroyers, and cruisers and you'd bet on the Dragoon? My uncle Matar is correct when he says the number of fools is only slightly less than the number of stars in the universe.

I should know better then to expect sense from someone who can't even spell Cadillac correctly, what a moron.

I am thinking those swarms that were fielded by the Goons in their rise to power were lucky they never encountered a solo Dragoon Destroyer.

lol The things people will say because they think it is popular are amazing.

Let me guess. You have never heard of clonejacks. Some 'solo' pilots use their services.

And kiting is pretty standard for alot of solo pilots. Anyone who has ever landed in a complex right smack within the sights of a railgun Cormorant or a Garmur sitting at 20km+ knows what I'm talking about. It's even worse inside a complex since the ability to warp to a fleet member at 150km or more is disabled in there.

Hardwires do not make you invulnerable, but they will make you a darn arse to deal with. Have you ever fought against a Snake-augmented Dramiel, Garmur or Vagabond? Darn near impossible to catch without a very specific fleet composition, and they will thrash all the alpha frigate pilots in a heartbeat. Seen it happen before. How about a Crystal-augmented Cyclone? Good luck cracking that shield.

Dragoons aren't designed for alpha-strikes. They are designed to drain any poor sod who gets within its range and tear him or her to pieces with a swarm of drones. If you want alpha-strikes, look for a railgun Cormorant or an artillery Thrasher. If that Dragoon is designed to keep at range with something like, say, an oversized afterburner, you will have your fleet split, and every individual frigate that manages to get within range will be eliminated. Splitting enemies on grid is a staple solo pilot tactic. Since you aren't aware of this, I assume you have rarely dealt with a solo pilot.

You have been taking lessons from Arrendis. Winning an argument that has nothing to do with the point of discussion by creating a scenario off on a tangent. This pilot said her "Dragoon" singular tense was looking forward to swarms of alpha pilots. The consensus was despite her greater skill and weapons she would eventually be overwhelmed and sent home via pod express. Now you have created a scenario where she has multiple ships in a handy nearby station. Amazing!

Next time why don't you create your fiction without hijacking a real world conversation that is asking specific questions about fits and the dps required to "alpha strike" a Dragoon Destroyer. If you think Dragoon Destroyers are so powerful why is it no capsuleer alliance uses them in significant numbers?

Hell even the dim witted gank pilots do not fly Dragoons. But with your greater experience then mine I am sure you still think you are right, lol, arrogance and stupidity the ying and yang of self righteous loudmouths.