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Jita IV-4 Station Docking range
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#21 - 2017-06-16 05:57:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Akkyma wrote:
Dear EVE,

Today I made my usual transfer of planetary resources to Jita in my Anathema with my Alt. After I jumped to Jita I pressed the Warp and Dock button and waited to dock the station. Unfortunately, my warp ended at approximately 1 Km from the docking range and I had to approach the station. In less then a second my ship was targeted and destroyed by AlFaraS'ulTanine.

Now, I understand for some stations to have a smaller docking range (dependent on the quality of the station) and by this, to be unable to dock instantly after arriving at the station, but Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant?

At the most populated station of the game you are allowing players who have no intention of PVP, players who bring goods that support economy of the game to be randomly exposed to killing and eventually looting trough the simple fact of randomly warping 1 Km short of the station's docking range.

Although my loss was not that big (600 mil ISK), I'm still bound to wonder where do I end up if this happens to me half the times. What should I do? Sell my goods at a lower price at another station or wait a week for them to be sold? Use a battlecruiser to haul 200 m3 of goods? Any hauler would be destroyed just as easily by a Tornado. I understand loosing because of my carelessness, lack of knowledge, because I missed something. But because the game exposes me to players who scam and take advantage of any "exploits" they can find? Speaking of exploit, wouldn't this situation lean towards being an exploit (hunting for random warp outs at the most important market hub of the game)?

On the other hand, if these are the people that you want to support in this game, then I'll make room for them. Please consider this situation.


Best regards,
Akkyma


I am not going to scan through that lot but simply put go jump in a reasonably fast ship, exit Jita 4-4 move up wards after undocking and back up over the top keeping at 0 on the station. Make a bookmark and call it Jita 4-4 zero - 1 or something like that, themn do the same underneath the station.

Then burn down and make a BM below the station say 3967 km below, of whatever takes your fancy.

At that point you have an initial warp in to check both zero bookmarks, then you merely warp to the clearest of the two and spam the dock button like a madman. Works for me!!!! That 600m loss is you fault, get better at Eve, the Tornado's are set at their optimal for the normal warp in points. Happy hauling...

PS don't forget to create an instra undock bookmark while you are at it.

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Yaosus
From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#22 - 2017-06-16 10:11:45 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
Place neutral alt in a crappy ship on undock in fleet and warp to member.... If at war with anyone

Leave alt in jita and just fleet him anytime your coming , if you hate bookmarks or if you already have too many bookmarks to choose from and you don't to spend the extra effort of clicking that extra spot in that drop down menu... Cause damn that's a ton of effort for anyone I mean it'll take like less than 5 seconds but what else can you do in 5 seconds.



I wouldn't take his advice at all. When you start playing eve, first you open the eve client, then you log in. The guy plays eve here on the forums and most of the times he forgets his meds.

You're mistaking him for Holey pal
I haven't seen you ingame yet, I've seen Saeg plenty of times this week



Check out my killboard. It's all there.

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Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#23 - 2017-06-16 16:43:27 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
Place neutral alt in a crappy ship on undock in fleet and warp to member.... If at war with anyone

Leave alt in jita and just fleet him anytime your coming , if you hate bookmarks or if you already have too many bookmarks to choose from and you don't to spend the extra effort of clicking that extra spot in that drop down menu... Cause damn that's a ton of effort for anyone I mean it'll take like less than 5 seconds but what else can you do in 5 seconds.



I wouldn't take his advice at all. When you start playing eve, first you open the eve client, then you log in. The guy plays eve here on the forums and most of the times he forgets his meds.

You're mistaking him for Holey pal
I haven't seen you ingame yet, I've seen Saeg plenty of times this week



Check out my killboard. It's all there.

so from all the killmails last night, the biggest damage percentage was 24.5%
you can do better lol

also, nice officer vindi, it would be a shame if something happened to it XD

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Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#24 - 2017-06-17 08:10:17 UTC
Akkyma wrote:
Dear EVE,

Today I made my usual transfer of planetary resources to Jita in my Anathema with my Alt. After I jumped to Jita I pressed the Warp and Dock button and waited to dock the station. Unfortunately, my warp ended at approximately 1 Km from the docking range and I had to approach the station. In less then a second my ship was targeted and destroyed by AlFaraS'ulTanine.

Now, I understand for some stations to have a smaller docking range (dependent on the quality of the station) and by this, to be unable to dock instantly after arriving at the station, but Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant?

At the most populated station of the game you are allowing players who have no intention of PVP, players who bring goods that support economy of the game to be randomly exposed to killing and eventually looting trough the simple fact of randomly warping 1 Km short of the station's docking range.

Although my loss was not that big (600 mil ISK), I'm still bound to wonder where do I end up if this happens to me half the times. What should I do? Sell my goods at a lower price at another station or wait a week for them to be sold? Use a battlecruiser to haul 200 m3 of goods? Any hauler would be destroyed just as easily by a Tornado. I understand loosing because of my carelessness, lack of knowledge, because I missed something. But because the game exposes me to players who scam and take advantage of any "exploits" they can find? Speaking of exploit, wouldn't this situation lean towards being an exploit (hunting for random warp outs at the most important market hub of the game)?

On the other hand, if these are the people that you want to support in this game, then I'll make room for them. Please consider this situation.


Best regards,
Akkyma


Tl;dr ....but the short, simple answer is Yes. This is what CCP intended in the game. It's called risk. In an attempt to add "realism", there has to be risk for everything..just like rl, you can get mugged for your belongings. This is Eve. You can either hack it in Eve and adapt, or you can't.

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#25 - 2017-06-17 09:10:04 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Akkyma wrote:
Dear EVE,

Today I made my usual transfer of planetary resources to Jita in my Anathema with my Alt. After I jumped to Jita I pressed the Warp and Dock button and waited to dock the station. Unfortunately, my warp ended at approximately 1 Km from the docking range and I had to approach the station. In less then a second my ship was targeted and destroyed by AlFaraS'ulTanine.

Now, I understand for some stations to have a smaller docking range (dependent on the quality of the station) and by this, to be unable to dock instantly after arriving at the station, but Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant?

At the most populated station of the game you are allowing players who have no intention of PVP, players who bring goods that support economy of the game to be randomly exposed to killing and eventually looting trough the simple fact of randomly warping 1 Km short of the station's docking range.

Although my loss was not that big (600 mil ISK), I'm still bound to wonder where do I end up if this happens to me half the times. What should I do? Sell my goods at a lower price at another station or wait a week for them to be sold? Use a battlecruiser to haul 200 m3 of goods? Any hauler would be destroyed just as easily by a Tornado. I understand loosing because of my carelessness, lack of knowledge, because I missed something. But because the game exposes me to players who scam and take advantage of any "exploits" they can find? Speaking of exploit, wouldn't this situation lean towards being an exploit (hunting for random warp outs at the most important market hub of the game)?

On the other hand, if these are the people that you want to support in this game, then I'll make room for them. Please consider this situation.


Best regards,
Akkyma


Tl;dr ....but the short, simple answer is Yes. This is what CCP intended in the game. It's called risk. In an attempt to add "realism", there has to be risk for everything..just like rl, you can get mugged for your belongings. This is Eve. You can either hack it in Eve and adapt, or you can't.



Don't listen to the Codie Ganker Princess ( she cant read this i'm blocked by her, too many tears ) , just book mark points near gates and Jita to warp to. Kaely does not have a clue, she shoots the same pod 11+ times to pad her KB.
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Telara Shetaan
Multiplayer Excel
#26 - 2017-06-20 12:50:48 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:

I afk'ed for a couple of hours


did you just admit to violating the code? Roll
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#27 - 2017-06-20 13:30:43 UTC
As long as he's docked up he can afk all he wants. Try actually reading that Code sometime.

Roll

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Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#28 - 2017-06-20 13:44:43 UTC
I think this C&P pot-plant looks a little dry.

*unzips fly*

There little pot-plant, Vipsans mighty firehose will damp you down.
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#29 - 2017-06-20 16:01:32 UTC
Telara Shetaan wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

I afk'ed for a couple of hours


did you just admit to violating the code? Roll

I asked my alter-ego for permission to do so, it told me I was allowed
anyway, I don't know a ganking boat that can go 10km/s Lol

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