Crime & Punishment

At an individual level I cannot truthfully say that I withdrew from the fight against Gankers with my tail between my legs, because CODE did not get a single kill on any of my characters, not one, the only loss I had to gankers was a Thrasher on Dracvlad which was me shooting some Russian ones who had just ganked a freighter and who had time to blow up my thrasher.

I lost not a single freighter, a single DST, a single BR or hauler or mining ship, not one logistics ship and I was using pimped Guardians, not one to CODE or Miniluv, not one. So I repeat how is that running away with my tail between my legs? When I have lots of kills on CODE and their allies, saved multiple freighters, including a very very full NCDOT. JF which I bumped out of optimal and the pilot gave me 1bn ISK for the save.

How is that running away with my tail between my legs?

At the time I was doing this I had my killboard updating to ZKill automatically, they are all there. It was only when I briefly dabbled in POCO war decs did I remove that API key.

So if this is losing I wonder what winning is at a personal level?

However as I not a full on propaganda nerd like the CODE players I will point out that the success rate in defending freighters was about 35% in the events I was involved in, but I see that more of a strategic unbalance around bumping more than anything else, but acknowledge the sheer efficiency of CODE and Miniluv in this.

I stopped doing this mainly because I found it boring and loaded against the AG, my decision to back away was directly related to my boredom with the stale play around this. Thankfully I found an active top level PvP alliance in the TZ's that I largely played who would offer me interesting fleet fights, especially with the new capital combat system which I especially like, I was even involved in a cap fight against PL which we won. So I went and did that and left hisec, so that to CODE players is running away with my tail between my legs. Seriously guys, you are just terrible

PS. At the moment I am struggling with a personal lack of motivation for Eve caused by Ghost training and Concord frigate gifting to these players, if Shadow of War had not been delayed to October both my subs would have probably not been renewed. Is that CODE winning?

The simple fact is you are a very confused person, the CODE is simply a group of players who claim that James315 owns all of hisec and that his CODE is applied to all, which is why we refer to all players who are in CODE pushing that concept as CODE.

You chaps are amazingly funny, I actually had a couple of hours chat explaining to one of your members why such ambiguous law as in the CODE was bad law because it was so wide in its interpretation, the odd thing is that I think he actually enjoyed the chat, as did I, but in the end he got annoyed and applied a bounty on me which was quite funny.

Personally you can claim that Micky Mouse owns all of hisec for all I care, actually he does own hisec come to think of it...

So you think I am a whiney carebear, so not bothered mate...., but you are at least a prolific ganker , you don't seem to have been that active recently, sad to see that , though a bit of a spurt 11th June.

I often check CODE's activity levels in terms of miner ganking, and there are good reasons to keep tabs on that.

PS I don't go anywhere near hisec ganking or CODE subjects on Rediit, just so you know...

However as I not a full on propaganda nerd like the CODE players I will point out that the success rate in defending freighters was about 35% in the events I was involved in, but I see that more of a strategic unbalance around bumping more than anything else, but acknowledge the sheer efficiency of CODE and Miniluv in this.

I stopped doing this mainly because I found it boring and loaded against the AG, my decision to back away was directly related to my boredom with the stale play around this.

Absolutely which is why I use a DST with over 1m EHP, the rest of your points are rubbish...

1m ehp dst
Better link that fit lol

Nope

- The chokes are full of the same stuff going both ways, which is a massive and pointless increase in volume and risk exposure.
- Contractors don't give sensible courier loads, which would make economic ganking impossible. You can talk to contractors to get better loads from them.
- Haulers aren't trustable, therefore contractors are not sharing risk with haulers. You can gather up trustable haulers.
- Traders are seperate entities, not making money by buffering supply of volume things on either side of the choke for you, and letting you choose to fulfill immediately out of stock and ship later.
- Stuff comes over the chokes that is the same value on the markets in both sides.
- Really expensive stuff can justify the effort of finding a high->high wormhole or a high -> jspace -> high route. Having explorers give them to you routinely would mean you'd have such on demand.
- Everytime a freighter dies, you have an opportunity to discuss with that freighter pilot moving to a strategic solution.

ie instead of recruiting one type of white knight, you'd chose to recruit a range of people who already do full suite of roles required to solve the problem, you could have cut down the freight at risk tremendously, but plainly anti-ganking is not about solving or defeating ganking, its just about fighting over a freighter, which is dumb and losing the battle strategically before it even started.