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Low sec Radar and Magnetometric - worth it?

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Ugly Boy Woman
#1 - 2012-01-23 22:29:14 UTC
The question is are they considerably better than their high sec counterparts? For those who low sec exploration - do you bother with them at all? Mind you I intend to have a second ship doing the salvaging / hacking, so fitting all those modules won't be an issue.
Mnemosyne Gloob
#2 - 2012-01-23 22:52:55 UTC
In my experience they are a bit better, yes (or can be rather), but be prepared to face some more rats. You should also consider the fact that they aren't ran that much as in highsec, so you may find more to do - however they leave you in a very vulnerable position, as there are no gates guarding you from people that might be inclined to blow your ship up.
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#3 - 2012-01-23 22:53:09 UTC
Well, the best Mag-Site I had yet gave 19 T2 Bars along with some other stuff. But that was NPC 0.0. Maybe you should go there for explo.
Kumi Mashiba
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-23 22:56:14 UTC
Depends on where you are and what you are flying.

If you can fly a nicely fit t3, you can easily run 5/10 and 6/10s while skipping everything else to maximize profits.

Which region you are in matters as well (for mags atleast). Mag sites in serpentis region give junk loot (crappy t2 loot) in my experience while blood raider and gurista regions give the better loot (enhanced ward consoles and capacitor consoles)

Radars are generally split pretty evenly among all.

As far as a difference between hi sec and low sec radar/mags. yes, there is quite a large difference. Mag sites will give significantly more loot in low sec (which matter a lot for things like capacitor consoles -- generally get only 1 if any at all in hi sec while in low sec when they drop they drop in clumps of 2-6) Same with radar sites, except in this case its a matter of more loot cans = more money
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#5 - 2012-01-23 23:27:30 UTC
Two things:

1) The reward per site is a lot higher than in highsec
2) There is little to no competition for the site (no tengu swooping in and stealing the **** whilst you're webbed down)

If you are secure in your ability to move about in lowsec, it's worth the risk.

Tip: it's often most dangerous ENTERING lowesec than ever leaving or moving when in it. A good way to get into lowsec "safely" is to enter through a WH and ergo avoid the camped entry systems. Build up your loot in a station, then get it contracted out (or move it in a blockade runner yourself).

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Sir Livingston
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-01-23 23:30:23 UTC
Yes, they are much more profitable. However, exploration is still random as always, but the average profits are naturally higher in low security space.

Do the sites. You won't regret it...unless...a hostile finds you Shocked

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mxzf
Shovel Bros
#7 - 2012-01-24 00:13:17 UTC
I always hate seeing this question. It completely depends on your definition of "worth it". Either ask "Is it worth it to whatever random posters will respond to this post" or ask "Does it typically bring in more than X ISK", either one of those are valid and answerable questions, but no one other than me can answer "Is it worth it to me?"
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#8 - 2012-01-24 09:42:02 UTC
Lowsec radars are usually a little bit better than hisec ones but more tedious to complete. There is much lesser competition here however. I have been doing those sites for about 5 months now in my Ishkur and I never had situation when someone steals it from me while in hisec it is not uncommon.

About magnetometric sites :
In Serpentis space those are quite worthless ( I did about 70 of those pre- and post- Crucible ). The best salvage you can get here are Power Circuits but it is still very rare.

Blood sites have a slim chance of dropping Capicitor Consoles ( about 20mil per piece with current prices ) and finding several of those in a single can is possible. Last week I had a lucky chain here getting about 400 mil in cap consoles in four consecutive sites in two systems so it can happen but it is quite random so don't count on it.

In Guristas space you have chance of getting Enhanced Ward Console or Intact Shield Emitter so it is also quite good ( 5x EWC in single can = yummy Big smile).

Post Crucible you can also find T2 rig blueprints in mag sites ( at least in serp/blood space ). However I don't know about it's profitablility ( I have about 70 and most of those seems to be worthless unless you have very good manufacturing skills ).

Summary:
Lowsec rad/mag sites are good way of making money if you are rookie explorer as myself. If you focus on doing a lot of those sites, your chances of getting better loot are much greater. Sooner or later you will score good decryptors/salvage so it makes up for those poor sites where you find garbage.
If you have good ship to do plexes in lowsec you are better off doing those I suppose as the profitability here is much better from what I heard.
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-01-24 10:16:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu
They are worth doing - especially as it is much easier to find a site as the competition is almost non-existing. Just make sure you do them in a ship that is...

- Expendable
- Mobile

Do not take a Billion-ISK mission-fit pimpmobile into lowsec, it may get blown up. Take a cheap T2 fit ship that, if it happens to get tackled and shot at, won't break your bank. I also wouldn't take a T3 cruiser for it unless you have a good feel of the lowsec and know how to stay safe in it.

As there are no bubbles, it is very rare to get caught during traveling but it can happen. The most obvious way to counter it is to fly with a covops/covop hauler (or in a pinch, an expendable shuttle) scout alt that goes 1 jump ahead of you to make sure you don't run into something nasty. If you use a covop hauler alt, it can also double as warp-capable loot can to haul all your stuff around (and can do a quick drop-off to high sec while your combat/exploration ship hangs out in low sec)
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-01-24 12:29:29 UTC
Most is already said. find a secluded system in low sec.

Entering and exiting low sec is the most dangerous, though never persume you're safe.

because there is less competition I usaly scann down sites with a T2 covert-opps and run the sites with a Drake.

Got the drake to lowec right after downtime and use a crane to get stuff out.

is it worth it depends on how much time you like to put in the game. when like me you have only a few hours it's a fun and resonable well paid.
Tierius Fro
Coronado's Cross
#11 - 2012-01-24 22:40:29 UTC
I play with two characters. One in a Falcon, does the scanning, and the other in a Curse, works the mag and radar sites. Both can warp cloaked, in case I run into a gang. And a good combo for PVP, if I feel like it.

Fro

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#12 - 2012-01-24 22:56:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhilia Mann
Tierius Fro wrote:
I play with two characters. One in a Falcon, does the scanning, and the other in a Curse, works the mag and radar sites. Both can warp cloaked, in case I run into a gang. And a good combo for PVP, if I feel like it.

Fro


No they can't. Unless you're actually using a Pilgrim....

Edit: which is a damn fine ship for the job.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Guldan Age Stories
#13 - 2012-01-25 07:18:13 UTC
If your doing this for a living its less about if you will or wont its about time and priority.


in low sec
4/10(nonDrone)
3/10(nonDrone)
Radar[if =or>2sites]
unknown(nonWH)
Mag.[if>3sites]
annom (with faction spawns or escalation chance)
Radar
Mag.
grav.
lad

In the end if this is your profession in EvE then you like gambling on the chance based scanning with you time.
That's my order of low sec scanning (.5 to .2) based one 2 years in the field.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Azro Zora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-01-25 08:25:44 UTC
your list is awefull.

3/10 in low? no 6/10 or you list no 5/10? what are you smoking?

priority in lowsec is:


  1. 6/10
  2. 5/10
  3. 4/10
  4. Combat site that escalates to 6/10 loot
  5. Comabt site that escalates to 5/10
  6. hackable ladar
  7. radar
  8. Combat site that escalates to 4/10
  9. mag


and lowsec is worth the effort if you can either defend the site you find or are willing to give up the site when someone hunts you.
but you have to be aware of your system all the time. if you forget to check local and deepscan every few seconds you will get killed.
Tierius Fro
Coronado's Cross
#15 - 2012-01-25 20:04:22 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Tierius Fro wrote:
I play with two characters. One in a Falcon, does the scanning, and the other in a Curse, works the mag and radar sites. Both can warp cloaked, in case I run into a gang. And a good combo for PVP, if I feel like it.

Fro


No they can't. Unless you're actually using a Pilgrim....

Edit: which is a damn fine ship for the job.

Sorry. Yeah. Pilgrim. That's the ticket ...

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